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Frankie Kazarian was ‘super upset’ about Suicide gimmick, says TJP

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Frankie Kazarian allegedly did not share TJP’s enthusiasm for performing under the guise of Suicide in Impact Wrestling.

TJP has logged the most total hours underneath the Suicide and Manik masks; however, Frankie Kazarian holds the distinction of being the first.

Suicide is a masked character that originally appeared in the Total Nonstop Action (TNA) 2008 video game, TNA Impact! TJP, also known as T.J. Perkins, shared the real-life origin story of TNA and Impact Wrestling’s Suicide gimmick in a new interview ahead of his Major League Wrestling (MLW) Opera Cup opening round clash with Alex Shelley at MLW Fightland on Oct. 2.

“A funny story, the first inception of it back in, I think, 2008. A lot of us were in the locker room for Victory Road or Destination X. It was in Houston in 2008. They had told Frankie Kazarian, ‘We would like you to portray this character,’ and he was bummed. He was super upset because he’s a little bit older than me, he comes from the same generation, but he’s a little bit older than me and was finally getting the chance to be himself. He had matured himself as a performer and was at his peak, I think. They were kind of undoing that. He didn’t want to do it, he wasn’t having it,” TJP tells Cageside Seats’ Shakiel Mahjouri. “We all sat around the locker room and Christopher Daniels joked, ‘TJ should just be Suicide, he’s already in a mask,’ because I was Puma at the time.

“Fast forward to, I don’t know, 2012. The character had gone through its ups and downs and had gone through a lot of different portrayals. They were bringing it back for one night only as maybe nostalgia. I don’t think they knew who they wanted to portray it. I said, ‘If you don’t have any idea for this, I’d be happy to do it.’ At the time, they didn’t know what to do with Puma, the character, and I was tired of sitting at home. They said, ‘Good idea.’ One night turned into two, turned into three. At this point, I might be the longest-running Suicide character portrayal. It was just an accident. After night one, they thought, ‘This is the way we always envisioned it being and we love it. Let’s see where it goes.’”

One potentially glaring issue with the Suicide gimmick was the character’s name. TJP says that Impact Wrestling was looking to rebrand the character in 2013 (although they did bring back Suicide in 2017).

“I think it was the day of the Boston pay-per-view we had, Slammiversary. It was not long after the bombing in Boston. They had thought about changing the character, changing the name. At the time, TNA was doing arena shows and live TV every week. It was closer to what AEW is doing now. They were trying to get over that hump. They had network TV with Spike and everything. Maybe they thought the name should be changed. I was really kind of the one to break the silence and say, ‘Hey, maybe now is the time. We’re going to a city that needs a little bit of uplifting. I don’t know that Suicide is the best name for the correct. And you guys have been wanting to rebrand it a little bit for a while so.’ I don’t know who came up with Manik but I said, ‘Okay, we could do something with that. It’s better.’

“I had pitched a lot of different ideas for the character change. I had wanted to do something based on the Aswang, which is Filipino folklore. It’s like our vampire, ghoul, werewolf-type thing. I wanted to turn it into a Great Mutah-type character. Sort of what Demon Balor is now. I don’t think he was doing that at the time yet, but that’s sort of what I wanted to do. They had taken the mask off and everything and I said, ‘What if we have a character that is me and this character at the same time. Sometimes it’s this character, sometimes it’s me.’ We had a lot of starts and stops and what we ended up getting was Manik with a new suit.”

TJP also touches on the importance of MLW’s Opera Cup ahead of his bout with Shelley.

“One thing that I think is really great as far as that setting, most commonly when you get to the upper levels of wrestling — like where WWE, Impact, MLW, New Japan, Ring of Honor is — when you have steady programming, they are essentially presented as television shows. As a television show, you kind of have your cast. You have a roster, it might be 200 people, but the show’s really about 10 people. If you watch WWE, the show is really about 10 people,” TJP explains. “What I like is that MLW’s roster is not too big and not too small.

“And what I like is on the indies, tournament formats are really great for what is essentially a single-serving, ensemble cast. For an indie show, a lot of people aren’t familiar with a lot of the guys. There isn’t a lot of linear storytelling depending on the number of dates in that regional promotion or whatever the case may be. The tournament format is such an instant draw for people to be interested in because it’s a springboard, it’s a debut, it’s a first look at a lot of guys, or it’s just a dream booking for a lot of guys if they’re familiar with the participants. I like MLW using the Opera Cup, having the Opera Cup and that platform on a major league — so to speak, no pun intended — format because they have the type of programming to have a linear track for it with the excitement of the single-serving, one-night-only feel to it,” he concludes. “It’s kind of marrying both worlds together.”

MLW: Fightland takes place at the 2300 Arena in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on Sat., Oct. 2 and will air Oct. 7 on Vice TV. The card is headlined by a double title match pitting MLW World Heavyweight champion Jacob Fatu against MLW National Openweight champion Alexander Hammerstone. Also on the card is Tom Lawlor vs. Davey Richards, Bobby Fish vs. Lee Moriarty, Matt Cross vs. Calvin Tankman, and an appearance by Tajiri.


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