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WWE Raw results and reactions for Nov. 21 Survivor Series fallout show

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WWE Raw Supershow tonight (Nov. 21, 2011) emanated from Hershey, Pennsylvania, in what was the fallout show from Survivor Series, which took place just last night (Nov. 20, 2011) on pay-per-view. 

Before we get to the reactions to the show, it's time to give a shout out to the Cageside commenter who delivered the "Comment of the Night" in the Raw live blog thread. And that honor goes to Jon Knapik, who said what we were all thinking while Kevin Nash was cutting his promo -- "Great. Nash is drunk." Well done, my friend.

If you want full results from Raw tonight, click here for the running live blog. Time to get to reactions from the show:

  • WWE must have been trolling us with their advertisements for tonight's show. Jonah Hill was supposed to guest star and he didn't show up, leading to a lot of "creative had nothing for him" jokes on Twitter (oh sh*t, I'm putting over Twitter, I better stop). Triple H was advertised and he was nowhere to be found for reasons that are still unclear. And when the hell is Brodus Clay actually going to debut? Before or after the mystery return man shows up on Jan. 2, 2012?
  • CM Punk went back to his shoot style promo work and while I don't exactly hate it, I'm not a huge fan of it either. I like it when he calls attention to the fact that there isn't a single WWE fan on Earth that likes to be referred to as a member of the "WWE Universe" but his reality gimmick can only go so far. After all, the entire premise of pro wrestling is that we're supposed to suspend our disbelief. I can't effectively do that if you're telling me the truth all the time. Still, it's good that he has the belt back.
  • If Punk "making the WWE interesting again" means he's going to have three and a half star, pay-per-view quality matches on Raw every week then count me in. All in. The problem, of course, is that he can't work with Dolph Ziggler night in and night out. If he could, they would tear every house down from here to Bumfug, Egypt. After tonight, I see no reason to change my stance on Ziggler being the best worker in the entire company. That man can get a good match out of anyone and when he was given a big match against Punk in a prime slot (leading the second hour), he delivered.
  • I'm not the only one that rabidly disagreed with Punk when he said the fans don't want Punk vs. Ziggler, right? Everyone should want that. Every night. 
  • Last note on Punk. Bill Baconhill on Twitter (there I go again) made an interesting observation that I didn't pick up on the first time around. "Did CM Punk just call John Laurinaitis out of touch because he didn't get something from a movie from 12 years ago?" Yes, yes he did. 
  • Awesome Truth needed to break up whether we want to imagine best case scenarios or not. They were doomed via bad booking but the goofy over the top nature of both of their characters just didn't hold up over the long haul. When John Cena went beast mode and straight up told them both they were jokes and glorified jobbers clogging up the main event, he wasn't doing anything but voicing the same thing every one of us were already thinking. The only problem with splitting them up and having them feud is neither one of them is ready for a babyface turn. Who are we supposed to cheer for? Truth because he was attacked from behind and laid out? I don't want to cheer Truth right now, he's better as a heel. So is Miz. It would be best to just cut bait on the whole thing and send them their separate ways. Not sure we'll get that, though. 

Thoughts on the rest of the show after the jump.

  • Zack Ryder continues getting a decent push, for his standards at least. Sure, he jobbed to Alberto Del Rio but he was given more time and allowed more offense than I expected. Del Rio made him look good and he's still over with the crowd. The sticking point with a guy like Ryder is that it's gotten to a point where he seems to be over simply because WWE won't put him over. Like he's booked into the ground but it works in his favor because it's become the cool thing to do to cheer for him despite how he's booked. That makes it tough to navigate his future, and if we can count on anything from WWE, it's that they'll botch the hell out of it.
  • Speaking of botches, meet Kevin Nash. How sad is it that he can't get through an entire promo without botching at least one line? It's quickly becoming a fantasy pro wrestling game. How long will it take for Nash to screw up his lines and fumble over his words? Always go low, Cagesiders.
  • The less said about Sheamus vs. Jack Swagger the better.
  • The Cody Rhodes vs. Booker T feud got its start tonight and the time is right for this to happen. Coming off the big program with Randy Orton, of which Rhodes surprisingly managed to come away from relatively unscathed despite scoring all of one pinfall (not clean), it's time to make him look as good as possible and restore that prominence to the Intercontinental title he was promising when he changed it to the old design. Booker will get him there, no problem. It's a program I'm looking forward to over the coming months. I can definitely dig this ... sucka.
  • Kofi Kingston is so lost without Evan Bourne. He looks especially dorky carrying around that tag team title. That thing is nothing more than a piece of tin now. And to think, just a few months ago there was plenty of talk that Triple H was planning on revitalizing the tag division. In hindsight, we all should have known better. 
  • Wade Barrett does absolutely nothing for me. He never has anything interesting to say and his slow rolling style is slightly annoying and leaning the way of boredom. Inserting him into a program with Randy Orton is a good idea if they want to kill him off as a character. Orton can make him look like a superstar but why would he? I'd like to be pleasantly surprised here but I don't think that's going to happen.
  • The Diva's aren't even being given matches anymore.
  • I really missed Mark Henry on the show tonight. And Big Show's promo, which provided us with the least memorable short segment in wrestling history, makes me think they're going to keep the feud going. Bad move if they do. Time to move forward.

Overall, the show gets a C- grade from me and that's almost solely on the strength of the Punk vs. Ziggler match. I really, really want the rematch to happen at WrestleMania. As Dolph gets better and better on the mic, there's no longer any reason to saddle him with the United States title. Shoot him up to the main event, maybe by having him win the Royal Rumble.

That's it from me, Cagesiders. Now it's your turn to sound off with all your thoughts on tonight's show. Did you dig it?

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