WWE Raw results and reactions from last night (Feb. 6): From great to garbage
by Geno Mrosko on Feb 7, 2012 8:01 AM EST
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WWE Monday Night Raw last night (Feb. 6, 2012) emanated from Oklahoma City, Oklahoma, and featured the leading pro wrestling company in the world taking a gigantic dump on live television.
If you want full results from Raw last night, click here for the running live blog. Time to get to reactions from the show:
- This was one of those shows that I just can't see a good defense for. There were more video packages and promos than there was actual wrestling and the only wrestling we did see was either terrible or full of botches like Miz failing miserably at everything he does and R-Truth nearly getting a concussion because of it. Seriously, if you can give me a redeeming quality for Miz, I want to hear it. What does he bring to the table at this point? He's a half-assed worker with limited ability, he's an oaf athletically and his work on the mic is always going to be overshadowed by his ridiculously stupid face. Send this walking liability back to the Real World.
- The WWE Production crew deserves all the praise in the world for the work they do. The Undertaker promo that played after Triple H's opening segment turning down the match at WrestleMania was masterfully done. I have no clue why they felt the need to play it again later in the night but it was super well done and because of the collective talent of all involved in this storyline, I can feel myself getting sucked into it, despite the fact that I don't really want to. Triple H's promo turning the match down was well done and Shawn Michaels will be inserting himself next week. This feud is going to kick into high gear and before we know it, we'll all stop complaining about not ever wanting to see Triple H vs. Undertaker part three.
- Chris Jericho and CM Punk showed that the greatness we expected when we got word they would enter into a program was completely warranted and they're delivering in spades already. Jericho's explanation for the end of the world as we know would have worked much better had he won the Royal Rumble but it's still fine for the purposes of this feud. What I really liked, though, was Punk walking down to the ring after Jericho called him out for stealing all his schtick and Punk responding to it by stealing Jericho's silence schtick. No words, just holding up the belt and walking off. And really, it was great because Punk didn't need to speak. He's the best in the world because he has the WWE championship. Jericho wants to come back and say he's the best in the world, fine, he just has to win the title. Until then, it's Punk. Simple storytelling between two talented performers that came across great on TV and made us intrigued for a future match. Perfect pro wrestling.
- Brodus Clay wasn't on my TV last night and this is simply unforgivable. We were made to sit through a replay of an Undertaker promo and a replay of a John Cena promo that first aired at the Royal Rumble pay-per-view then the next night on Raw and now this week on Raw. We get it. He's always here, always showing up to work. Except he never made an appearance on this show. Way to look over the important details, guys. The one time he was on TV was from a supposed pre-tape from last week that was supposed to air but didn't. That's the kind of night this was. The Funkasaurus could have saved so much of it.
- Sheamus taking offense from David Otunga was utterly hilarious, especially considering how much Otunga was clearly into it. A pencil pushing lawyer beating down a guy headed to WrestleMania to contest for one of the two major titles in an impromptu match designed for Otunga to get squashed. The agent for this thing should be slapped, Sheamus should be reprimanded for being dumb enough to sell for a nobody like Otunga and WWE should be ashamed for ever booking this crap in the first place. This is what they've come up with for the freaking Royal Rumble winner? This is why the Elimination Chamber is such a stupid idea. Sorry, Sheamus, not taking you seriously when David Otunga is stomping a mudhole in your ass in the corner, even if you got up and Brogue Kicked him seven seconds later.
- Dolph Ziggler and Cody Rhodes were both pinned in matches that featured guys like Wade Barrett and The Miz. Someone told someone else within the company that Ziggler and Rhodes should be pinned to end matches other than Barrett and Miz. You wonder why fans just quit giving a shit. That Intercontinental title might as well not even exist, white leather classic look or not.
- How is it a good idea to continue a storyline that features a big red guy wearing a mask and talking about hate threatening a crying woman after she just got out of the shower? The image of Kane breathing into Eve's ear over her shoulder while she sits and cries is something no one should ever have to look at.
That's all I've got for this week. I'm not sure how it's possible to go from such a great show last week to such an utterly terrible show this week but they pulled it off. I'll give it a D because of the Triple H-Undertaker stuff early and the Jericho-Punk stuff later but nothing else was worth much of anything.
That's enough from me, though. Time for you Cagesiders to sound off with all your thoughts in the comments section below. Did you hate it as much as me?
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I don't understand how everyone else has missed this
But CM Punk didn’t just hold up his belt and walk away. He held up his belt, and then turned around to show Jericho the back of his shirt. That little piece was so subtle, but great as well.
It was the Sting bit.
I loved it. Both showing him his (new!) shirt that said “Best in the World”, and begging him to hit him in the back. Everything about their segment was gold.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 7, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions
I was just as shocked
that they didn’t show the camera to his back as he pointed at it and you saw Jericho’s face reading it.
Seriously, if you can give me a redeeming quality for Miz, I want to hear it.
Well there is…..and of course he….well I mean he is able to….and if you consider how he is….
No you’re right. There is nothing. I honestly couldn’t believe just how bad the botch with R-Truth was. That’s not just a botch, it is a phenomenal botch because I thought he semed to get OUT of the way. Then he seemed to take a bump when Jericho just ran by him. He’s terrible.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 8:35 AM EST reply actions
I’d much rather see the Miz than HHH any day of the week. I’m not sure how anyone could consider HHH’s promo a positive for this episode of Raw.
That's like choosing between eating two different piles of shit
Despite slight differences they are both sickening to think about.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
Hate it as much?
More. Much, much more.
When HHH is on the show, things turn to shit fast.
Suum Cuique
I just look at the Miz thing as just an accident, they just happen sometimes. I actually like Miz but it’s more that I followed him on the MTV shows so to me I like seeing guys I followed in other forms of entertainment make it in the one thing I truly love in pro wrestling.
by Chris Cutrer on Feb 7, 2012 8:50 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
well... that was fun...
The Jericho character has reverted to the mid 2000s… so much for all that work. Yes I like that he told us EXACTLY what we already knew.. but did he really have to?
The tease between him and Punk, wow… great work. If they take the belt off of Punk at Elimination Chamber, it will be a crying shame. Jericho needs to lose by nefarious means and Punk needs to beat him at Wrestlemania… unless Jericho is truly around for about two more years… where he can hold the belt and legitimize his being champion. I love Jericho and I don’t mind a heel WWE champion (especially if it is Jericho) and Jericho/Punk could give us endless PPV matches worth watching i’m sure… Regardless, that was one of three highlights for me.
Taker video= A++++++ an obsessed Taker is always the best one to watch. He’s great at the character and seeing the wall of HHH was stalkerific! This could be the match of Wrestlemania and I was hesitant about it but WWE sold it to me last night. HBK being in it, icing on the cake. LOVE HBK! LOVE LOVE LOVE… Could bring the house down, those three.
Johnny Ace… Even in his small role, call me crazy but I will actually be on WWE.com today to see what his fate is. STUPID move not having someone from “The Board” on Raw next week to address it as I am truly curious if we will have our Executive Vice President of Talent Relations and Interim General Manager of Monday Night Raw on my TV on mondays… Something tells me it’s not over with him.
R-Truth getting hurt was ridiculous. I hope he bounces back (no pun intended) and is able to compete in the Elimination Chamber. If anything, this can put alot of heat on Miz and Truth can throw him around the cage and eliminate him from the match setting up a loser leaves town match at Wrestlemania (not sure they deserve it but I feel it coming)… Truth can win and Miz can be future endeavored…. As far as redeeming qualities, I hear he works hard in the back and tries to be a wrestler but that’s just it… He is an entertainer… Great during interviews and a great wrestling ambassador but maybe that is where the WWE shoudl use him. He’s got the exposure with the mainstream now, use him as an advocate for WWE… I have an idea… Let’s put him and Otunga in a steel cage and the survivor of the match will get to be a talking head on our TVs but nothing more…
No Funk… Maybe they are taking steps to prevent overexposure… and maybe we’re finally getting a story for the Funk man. Fued even?
WAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYY Too many video packages. I bet the live crowd was livid. It’s like WWE mailed this one in… After the Superbowl yesterday, the official end of football season, you’d think the WWE would continue to tighten the screws and provide us with something better than they did…
I feel like we got cheated on the Jericho/Punk interaction (even though they did what they were told very well).
If Kane is on my TV breathing down a woman’s neck again, I think I will turn it off… If WWE has a shred of decency, they will remove it from all video packages much like the bitter beer Cena face from a few weeks ago… (anyone else notice how they didn’t use that particular face in ANY reviews?)
Anywho, that’s my take. Will I buy Elimination Chamber because of Raw last night? No. I think it will be a mess and I don’t want to watch a show where EITHER Punk or Bryan lose their titles… I feel like the titles are important around their waists… Although oh yea… one more freaking thing…
DANIEL BRYAN. IF YOU SAY ONE MORE FREAKING TIME THE TITLE IS NOT IMPORTANT TO YOU (in light of the interation b/w Show and AJ) I WILL PUNCH YOU IN YOUR TESTICULAR FORTITUDE. Geez man. I get it you back tracked and fixed it a little… But stop saying your title isn’t important to you… I get it we need to understand AJ is important for your heel act to work but ugh…. /endrant
Sorry about that. I had a flashback to last night where I wanted to punch Bryan in the junk. I liked the match for what it was and at some point, Bryan is going to face the Show… but hrm…
Last thought and this is a question. Who do we want to see Sheamus fued with for the title?
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If I were the writer… Here’s what I would do…. It would be pretty sick too.
Jericho win Elimination Chamber (yes I know what I said up there but follow me. I have my eyes on the future)… On Raw, Punk comes out and sets up the Wrestlemania rematch… Sheamus comes out and says hold on a minute… Steals the WWE title match from Punk at Wrestlemania… Jericho comes out smiling and says he accepts…
Punk vs. Johnny Ace becomes the Wrestlemania match to end that little fued. Ace loses, he has to leave his Raw position. Somehow Johnny retains and we then get a few months of Punk getting screwed out of his rematch by whatever nefarious means… Finally someone comes in and much like we had Rock vs. Cena at this years Wrestlemania, we get Jericho vs. Punk next year’s Wrestlemania… Yes we have to wait a year but this is the kind of story that could really hook in the fans if told correctly.
I may be too long sighted here but surely Jericho v. Punk would be as good a seller (if not better) than Rock vs. Cena… right? It’s like a fantasy dream match and it deserves the biggest stage…
What will likely happen is we get it as part of the undercard this year and it’s a great match and we get to watch them go at it for months before somehow WWE drops the program and both move on to other things… I just think there’s gold here and WWE should milk it for all its worth.
Am I off my rocker here?
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
If I were the writer… Here’s what I would do…. It would be pretty sick too.
Sick is about the word I would use to describe everything you said after that. I would actually take this weeks Raw over that “stuff” you wrote about.
Suum Cuique
by Rawuncutnxrated on Feb 7, 2012 9:06 AM EST up reply actions
Not the most exciting stuff I've ever written
and there is some room for improvement in it but after the storyline mess we got last night, something needs to happen to make Jericho’s return mean something… Here’s my problem. I don’t want Jericho to hold the belt if he’s just going to disappear again after mania… If Punk can survive the elimination chamber AND beat Jericho at WM, then he will earn the moniker best in the world… And that will be the rub Jericho was brought in to deliver… If Jericho is sticking around for a while, i’m fine with him holding the title but for Punk to drop it at elimination chamber just to get it back at mania… WASTE of writing and time. In my humble opinion…
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Feb 7, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
Punk vs. Johnny Ace becomes the Wrestlemania match to end that little fued.
Gross. Not at Wrestlemania. I don’t love Punk for some reason(although I do think he puts on a good match), but it would a waste to have him in a match against Johnny Ace when he could be having what would be most likely an excellent (epic?) match against Jericho. I get your point of it being a main event next year but I wouldn’t do it in favor of Johnny Freakin’ Ace. But, they could still have Jericho as the champ from Elimination Chamber and then have Punk win it at Mania since I think Fozzy is going on tour in 2012 and Jericho won’t be around all year. What you say “could” very well happen though, because it allows them to fit Randy Orton against D-Bry for the WHC.
If it is Jericho vs. Punk, I wonder how Ziggler will fit into the WM card since it seems to be Bryan (or whoever is WHC) vs. Sheamus in the other title match.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 9:30 AM EST up reply actions
RE: Ziggler at WM
Some rumblings indicate Money In The Bank will once again be a WM match. If so, I’m sure Ziggler is in there and one of, if not the, favorite to win it.
Money in the bank...
Imagine, Orton, Christian, Ziggler, Kofi and Mysterio in that match… I’d pay to see it.
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Feb 7, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Could definitely happen
If it does end up being Sheamus/Bryan and Punk/Jericho I supposed they have to fit in Orton and Ziggler somehow at the very least.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 2:28 PM EST up reply actions
Ace vs Punk at WM would make me sad...
BUT… if the scenario above played out… who would Punk have to face? Ziggler? for what? Now what I would pay to see is Punk vs. Bryan… that would be VERY fun to watch… and it would still leave Punk vs. Jericho for the future… I just think selling Punk vs. Jericho as an undercard really devalues what Punk has done this year. They can tear down the house but how well can Jericho hold up over a long match seeing as how he’s not been active for some time? If we got a 30 minute iron man style match between the two of them, that’s about all we can expect. Regardless, I agree that Punk vs Ace would suck at WM and I should have stopped to think before I put that out there…
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Feb 7, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
Oh it is an interesting scenario and Punk/Bryan would be a great match
but if that happens it takes the biggest star on RAW right now (IMO) and moves him to their second tier show (potentially) or takes the best character from Smackdown (maybe sans Randy Orton) and moves him to Raw. Again, I don’t think Jericho will be around for the whole year because most rumors I’ve heard is that they have a tour possibly planned (can’t check the Fozzy website at work) so I don’t imagine a long title reign is in his future. Might pick it up for a few months, and then drop it.
Punk/Jericho would be a great main event next year I’m sure. But, in regards to how well Jericho can hold up that would apply to pretty much apply to any match of his coming up, no? He can probably bring out a good match with anyone but I think he would basically have to carry a Sheamus match on his own(other than him taking 10 hits from Sheamus to the chest while leaning on the ropes), whereas Punk is a good worker.
You could also have a big build up on Bryan over the year and have Punk-Bryan next year at Mania where it would likely be very better than one now, due to a long term buildup and shuffling of rosters.
Regardless, I think we see Punk vs. Jericho at WM. With a little less than two months they are clearly laying the groundwork for it and they won’t have time to finish that up and have him build one with someone else and still have his promos with Johnny Ace.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 3:29 PM EST up reply actions
Even if Fozzy has a tour
Jericho has done Fozzy and WWE at the same time before. He just most likely won’t be doing house shows and there might be some Raws minus Jericho to work around his schedule.
Good point
I think that would probably work out for a little while then. I know he said in an interview he wouldn’t come back for a short spot like the Rock is, that if he came back it would be for at least a little while. So I may very well be wrong…and to be clear, I would love it if he came back for a while (at least until next Mania) and had a good title run.
I know they have an album coming out this summer, but I would imagine that might be even easier to work around then a tour.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Now here's something I would like...
If he’s back for a while. Have Jericho carry the WWE title to next WM and this is where Daniel Bryan can build his legitimacy… Give Bryan a feud w/ Jericho (starting around the next Rumble) and that would be a good WM match and Jericho would give the rub to a kid who could definitely use it.
There’s alot of ways you can take it if Jericho is in fact hanging around… He’s the type of guy who would legitamize just about anyone…
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Feb 7, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions
Jericho is in great shape, its not like he's Khali
And he worked out with Lance Storm before he returned and will be having his fair share of matches before their WM match-up.
As far as no Brodus I’m hoping it’s because they realized he’s been doing the same thing every week so maybe they don’t want him out there all the time. I think a perfect role for him right now is just as a special attraction and just have him out there every couple of weeks so they don’t burn him out. Also if they do have him out there each week at least add something new to his act. Up to this point it’s only been like the “should I get him?” and “shooplex” stuff. Don’t get me wrong as I love the gimmick but change it up some and I don’t mean new jumpsuits.
by Chris Cutrer on Feb 7, 2012 8:56 AM EST via iPhone app reply actions
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by Luke Thomas on Jan 5, 2012 1:40 PM PST up reply actions
by dandeman on Feb 7, 2012 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Didn't Punk make Jericho's point?
Someone on Twitter said it, so I can’t take credit for it, but Jericho comes out and accuses everyone of stealing from him, then Punk comes out and does the exact same no-talking troll job that Jericho did.
Pretty much.
Slight differences but overall I thought the same thing.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions
Yes that was the point
He stole Y2J’s gimmick all the way to the WWE Championship. He doesn’t have to say he’s the best, because he has the belt that proves it. Plus this time he was obvious about it, so it was more of an insult telling Jericho to shut up.
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 7, 2012 9:40 AM EST up reply actions
The thing is...
Punk never stole from Jericho. “The Best in the World” moniker is actually an homage to Ring of Honor. I thought it was genius to have Punk troll Jericho like Jericho trolled everyone else, and then have Jericho pose with the WWE title sitting indian style to close out the show.
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If it took someone on twitter pointing out that he stole Jericho's no talking thing
I feel kind bad for you.
by Kyle Rancourt on Feb 7, 2012 4:22 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe its because I watch these shows on a DVR and skip through commercials and replays of videos
but I really didn’t think it was that bad. There were a lot of promos, but you needed to set things in motion. My big complain of the night, other than the Miz botch, was the shoddy camera work in that 6 pack challenge.
I feel the same when I get a late start on watching and use the DVR to catch up with the live broadcast. Most hated the Raw featuring the Ryder/stretcher job, but I skipped thru the whole ordeal and saw the overall show as average. Unfortunately, I did not do that last night. Although I did miss the first 10 or so minutes of HHH talking.
What gets me is how awful it must have been for the crowd. I’m sure they got some dark matches — in fact, Funkasaurus (prior) and something with Cena/Kane (after) wouldn’t surprise me — but still a craptacular show for the paying audience. Last night is a perfect example of why I’m now only interested in attending PPVs or house shows.
if the crowd was pissed
They sure didn’t show it. It was a great crowd last night.
by hfl2013 on Feb 7, 2012 12:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thats so weird
I’ve also noticed some really bad camera work over the past couple weeks.
I think when you see how much of a shitfest the last few months were then it makes a passable episode look great. Although I didn’t think this show was that bad.
by Chris Cutrer on Feb 7, 2012 10:29 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Of course it wasn't as bad if you skipped all the worst parts.
Though this ignores the fact that you’re always the guy who defends even the shittiest things going on in the show. For the love of Jesus, you defended Cena/Kane.
the only parts i skip are the ads
And the replays of things happening earlier in the episode.
As for me being the Guy to defend them always, thats just not true. Unlike me saying you’re the Guy that shits over everything despite never watching any of it.
by hfl2013 on Feb 7, 2012 12:56 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 6 recs
I think as an ode to Johnny on this site
We need to start using the sentence, "you got me all wrong.
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To be fair
You’re the guy who attacks even the best things going on in WWE.
Beware my tiny electric fury.
You only say that because I said Mark Henry shouldn't be getting pushed.
At no point did I say WWE was doing a bad job of getting Mark Henry over, that angle was actually very well executed, what I was saying was that they should’ve been pushing anyone else but Mark Henry.
I was also extraordinarily positive about the Undertaker/HHH and Cena/Punk angles. I’d go as far as saying Cena/Punk was the greatest match in WWE history, maybe even the greatest match ever.
I’m just a guy who knows not to expect anything good for WWE after they’ve burned everyone so many times, and any and all instances of quality are an aberration at this point in time. Until that changes, I’m not going to act any differently, or pretend they’re going to pay off almost anything.
So...if you know to expect NOTHING good from WWE...
…why do you bother to even watch? That’s like saying ‘I hate being kicked in the nuts’ and then having a horse kick you in the nuts repeatedly.
If you don’t like it, don’t watch it…don’t talk about it…just avoid it. I can’t stand 90% of most people…so rather than deal with douchebags on a regular basis, I pick & choose where I go, what I do, when I do it , and who I do it with very carefully.
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What about the moment of the night?
After that horrid divas match which I only happened to look up at after the 1-2-3, there was a shot of the most bored crowd ever. It was epic. Then it quickly cut away when someone in the booth likely said “Cut away! What the hell are you doing?!” Oh it was great.
Some mentioned DVR and I’ve relocate so I don’t have a DVR for the next couple months until I relocate again so I’m watching Raw live. And it is horrid. I should just start downloading them the next day or something because the amount of video packages I sat through were horrible. It would have been a 40 minute Raw with a DVR (would have skipped the diva match too.)
As for the non-video package portion of the shows. Punk and Jericho delivered. I thought the main event was exciting enough. I’ll have to watch Truth getting injured again but I will say I am one of those who enjoys the Miz. He’s not the best wrestler in the ring, but it suffices and he’s good on the mic. And I too enjoy the irony of no John Cena. Basically I had a better chance of seeing the Rock on TV last night (Leno) than Cena.
Otherwise, I’m fine with HHH/Taker but not fine with 30 different video packages highlighting the two main events that we’ll undoubtedly see for the next 2 months.
It's disappointing coming off of last weeks awesome show
I know we can’t get shows like last weeks all the time. But some effort and actual wrestling would be appreciated. There wasn’t much to redeem this outside of Jericho, Punk, and Bryan
by Buckeye Brawler on Feb 7, 2012 11:03 AM EST reply actions
Am I the only one confused by that last segment
Did Kane rape her, did he just leave the room, WHAT HAPPENED. Also why the fuck did the Miz move out of the way.
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I find Mike in the back and punch him square in the jaw… The setup for the move was there. Miz just side stepped and watched as Truth planted into the ground… The head bounce of the mat was sick to watch… live and on replay…
In the body of other posts, I am often admittedly high and tend to not want to edit a lot.
by willlinn on Dec 2, 2011 12:01 PM PST
if Wren gets Arenado from Colorado, I’ll give him a BJ.
by Scott Coleman on Dec 19, 2011 9:45 PM PST
by Klemson Krash on Feb 7, 2012 11:36 AM EST up reply actions
I said on twitter last night that the last segment was super rapey
I honestly have no idea how anyone approved that. At one point I thought that Kane was having an orgasm. I don’t think that’s okay for television ever. At any time.
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Eve sits and cries? It looks like she’s laughing / smiling half the time…horrible actress.
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The WWE needs to stop having Kane kidnap/stalk divas. They are always absolutely awful at acting horrified
by hfl2013 on Feb 7, 2012 12:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Acting really isn't that hard, either
I don’t get how a person- let alone someone who is on TV a lot- can’t convey basic things like concern, fear, sadness, whatever, without looking totally dumb.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
At the very least, they should have had Kelly Kelly in this role
She screams so much in all of her matches, all she has to do is change her mad face slightly and it would work out. Eve does a terrible job at being the hot girl in a slasher film. I mean, they have like 100 of those coming out each year with dozens upon dozens of girls who have do nothing but scream and look scared while being hot. How hard could it possibly be to have had Eve go through the same 5 hour course those girls did.
Kelly Kelly would screw it up too.
I mean honestly, what diva could pull this off and make it believable. Eve with her horid acting, AJ and her stiffness, Kelly Kelly would find a way to screw that up too.
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Man, I wish Maryse was still around...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Compare this to last Thursday's TNA Impact...
The show was hot, great wrestling, not filled with BS videos and promos like WWE.
Too bad TNA doesn’t have a shot at winning over the ~1 million 10-15 year olds that support RAW…
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Yup
Those segments with Bischoff and his son were HOT.
(To be fair, yes, there was some quality wrestling)
You know what would make the Garrett Bischoff angle easier to take
If they didn’t add in so much damn crowd noise. You see an audience that is sitting down quietly, most looking rather bored, and you hear the sounds of 30,000 people cheering every time Bischoff Jr. talks back to Bischoff Sr. Its ridiculous.
Let's see
Punk/Jericho was awesome
HHH saying to Ace “I know who he is moron” was awesome I loved that scene with them
The 6 pack challenge had the potential to be good but like all of you Miz’s botch messed everything up
It was a very half ass Raw
Happy as hell Johnny keeps his job!
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
HHH's interactions with Ace this week were the best he's had yet I thought
I loved that “I know who is, moron” line too. And I can’t forget to mention the “humanistic” line later on in the show.
And another somewhat random thing about Raw, everyone needs to pay more attention to Otunga. The guy is very subtly doing an amazing job with this gimmick. If you notice, each week his thermos AND his shoes match whatever sweater he’s wearing. I don’t know how many people notice this each week, but its been going for a while and you have to give Otunga props for keeping that up (since I doubt anyone else actually cares enough about him to plan this for him).
I think Otunga works with Johnny
But outside of that, not too much there. I will look for the shoes
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check it out
Seriously, this guy is great. He might suck in every other aspect of pro-wrestling, but as Big Johnny’s right hand man, he’s so perfect.
That was unreal. Laughed my ass off there!!!!
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Two hours and 5 minutes to be exact
"80 percent of this thread is rangerjae's sig". -Jim Margulus 6/16/11
.......
SEMANTICS.
#HustleLoyaltyVagisil
by TheAngryApe on Feb 7, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Horrible RAW
Horrible.
Between all of the dead air of commercials and videos and whatever, there were like four matches (and one of them was a Diva match, so that doesn’t really count), and none of them really stood out to me at all in a good way. The only good part was the Punk-Jericho confrontation, but can a five minute segment redeem an hour and a half of crap?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 3:27 PM EST reply actions
I dont know about you
But I do like what they are doing with Beth Phoenix. Hopefully it turns into a serious program with Snuka’s kid
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Tamina has been feuding with Natalya, not Beth
Beth seems to have been feuding with the Bellas, even though they’ve been on the same side the past couple of times they’ve all been featured. Really, it’s all just filler until Kharma comes back, I guess. I thought she might of been back last night, because before the match, Jerry said something along the lines of “Beth thinks that there’s no one in the Divas division that can challenge her”.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 7, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
…give Kharma another couple of weeks…maybe a month to recuperate and then we’ll get a Beth/Kharma program.
#HustleLoyaltyVagisil
I know but I feel like they are leading to a feud with Tamina
And I think Kharma does need to come back Save the womens!!!!
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I watched it on DVR
so I was able to skip a lot of the shit. If I had to sit through the entire 2 hours, I’d be pretty pissed. Overall though, I thought it was fine because omg omg omg Jericho/Punk. Jericho sitting indian style at the end was so awesome. Eve screaming when the camera was still on Jericho was really weird, though.
A little off topic, but worth mentioning:
About 2 months ago, Comcast stopped showing the live feed of Raw. I live in Seattle, and all my friends in Washington and up and down the West Coast who have Comcast said the same thing happened to them. They used to show the Live East Coast HD feed at 6pm. Now we have to wait until 9. I know the ratings take DVR recordings into account but not sure to what end. I wouldn’t be surprised if one of the big reasons ratings have dropped is because of this. It was great watching Raw from 6-8pm. Now I have to record it, and I can think of a handful of people who just stopped watching because they don’t have DVR. If I were WWE, I’d be on the horn with Comcast asap.
Until I get a DVR again...
I think I’m downloading Raw the next day from here on out. I’ll watch Alcatraz at 9 and something else at 10. There are just going to be too many promos and other crap to watch this live any more.
You forgot to add D-BRY to the list of awesome.
From the way he calls AJ “this woman who loves me” to the “I will still be a vegan” line he’s easily my favorite character in wrestling. And the black guy with the crown? He was beyond amazing. WWE needs to hire him to sit ringside at every show.
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