John Cena and The Rock still sniping at each other on Twitter
by Keith Harris on Feb 5, 2012 7:33 PM EST
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On television the recent build to John Cena vs. The Rock at WrestleMania 28 has all been very civilised. A week ago, WWE aired video packages for both Cena and Rock that was designed to portray them both as babyfaces to their rival faction of fans, in a manner inspired by Twilight's teenage readers splitting into two camps, Team Edward and Team Jacob, each devotedly supporting one of the two rival protagonists in the book series in their battle against the other.
John Cena: Wonder if Dwayne will be there......hmmmm....let me...Nope. Lotta static bout Dwayne's absence in Topeka. No need to worry. He will be there April 1...then we settle it
The Rock: @JohnCena I was electrifying Topeka when you were sucking on yum rockets in college. My boot. Your ass. #Wrestlemania
John Cena:So its apparent that my actor buddy Dwayne doesn't like homosexuals or secondary education. Very classy. Tell Brian to write u better stuff.
John Cena: In Wichita today. Maybe my buddy Dwayne from #Teamfilmit will be here...probably not. But maybe ill be lucky enuff to get a message about How he used to be in WWE and once went to Wichita, and how good it was...u know before he left...and the whatever came back...only to say He was home and never leaving....only to leave again. Being your boots movie star. Ill see u april 1st. Meanwhile ill do my job... One that I would never leave. The one I love. The one u left. #everyotherdaybesideswrestlemaina That should hold #Teamfilmit over until the superbowl. But ill leave u with this..I speak fact, not politics. What is Dwayne gonna do. Get u guys to boo me louder? Yeah...that's worked for the past 5 years :) RISE ABOVE HATE. HUSTLE. LOYALTY. RESPECT.
The Rock: @JohnCena Settle down cowgirl. Your lemon panties are getting bunched up in your lady parts. #HustleLoyaltyVagisil
John Cena: Once again outclassed by #thefakeone man it would be a shame if Dwayne got beat by a guy with a mangina. Hey hollywood what u doin april 9? I know where ill be. Have a nice day Dwayne. RISE ABOVE HATE
The Rock: @JohnCena @WWE RAW 2/27. Portland, OR. The night The Rock slaps the feminine napkin out of John Cena. #UWhiningBitch
John Cena: Another classy response from my fav movie star. Just to make sure..ill pencil u in for RAW. Cause a lot of times u say you'll be there..but We all know how that one ends. And please..keep up the mangina talk..ill flip it into a Tampax deal :) have a nice night Dwayne. RISE ABOVE HATE :)
It's ironic that Cena is criticising The Rock for his subtle innuendo, when he was the one who got heat from GLAAD for being as subtle as a sledgehammer in implying that Rock and his WrestleMania 27 opponent The Miz were gay last spring. I suppose we're meant to believe that he's learnt the error of his ways while The Rock has not.
From this Twitter dialogue it seems that Rock will keep the colourful insults coming while Cena will try to rise above it and not respond to his bait in a similar fashion. That should work well in keeping his fans onboard, while simultaneously rubbing his haters up the wrong way. What do you think fellow Cagesiders?
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Cena talked too much on this exchange. From entertainment standpoint, it looks like Rock is getting into Cena’s head more because he is more on a shoot mode rather than promo. Cena is also resulting to looking for other people to help him (GLAAD or the gay community).
#HustleLoyaltyVagisil
Cena can’t Twitter Feud to save his life. Rocky just took him behind the shed and put him out of his misery Old Yeller style.
And please..keep up the mangina talk..ill flip it into a Tampax deal :)
Ether’d!
Cena continues to speak the truth, Rock sounds like a frat boy.
I'm not impressed by your performance, Dwayne
I love the Rock, but that was lame. Cena brought up some tired, but good points and the Rock just dismissed them with the usual sexist “you’re a girl, you’re a bitch” garbage. It’s a lot like the Rashad/Rampage feud, and it reminds me of an interview where Rashad said that Rampage plays up his blackness as a performance to pander to white audiences, and Rampage responded with “you’re gay.” Naturally, everyone boos Rashad and loves Rampage.
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by sun yue on Feb 5, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions 6 recs
#teamfilmit made me laugh
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by Jesse Holland on Feb 5, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I think Cena should let the Rock have it. It might help give him the edge he doesn’t really have, and maybe make him a bit more dynamic than the squeaky clean- super boring- stale character he’s been portraying forever. Even if he doesn’t do as good of a job as the Rock, I’d say it’s worth a try. He actually brings up more legitimate good digs than the Rock. He just needs to spice them up.
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by FarmerInTheCity on Feb 5, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions
Entertaining exchange
Good material from both, but Rock’s was more along the lines of being “pissed off and starting a burn war”, whereas Cena came across as the more mature “play it off and embrace the hate to defuse”. I’d say Cena comes out of it looking better. But that’s just me.
by CaliforniaCreamPuff on Feb 5, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions
Cena still
long-winded
Rock no substance
hope they don’t run out of lines
I think...
Cena owned this series. Rock phoned it in. Short & simple.. and very repetitive & redundant.
Team Film it was decent, which was the best of what was said. I hate that shit, team bring it.. sounds like he should be hanging w /the Twilighters.
They aren’t the only ones waiting for April 1st. I am too, so this stupid shit will be over… a year long feud that was only about 4 weeks out of 52… the fans got completely hosed.
Suum Cuique
by Rawuncutnxrated on Feb 5, 2012 10:52 PM EST reply actions
Kind of seems like Rock sort of just phoned it in and threw one of his entourage his iphone and said, “Here, I’m busy. Make some dick/vagina jokes or something, call him a girl, I don’t know….seriously though….make sure there are dick or vagina jokes.”
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 5, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions
That Twitter exchange pretty much sums everything I don't like about John Cena
I’m not taking about his PG good guy schtick. I’ve accepted that’s the way he’s going to be. I’m taking about him being a phony and a hypocrite in regards to his mottos that he so proudly claims to stand for. Cena started the whole thing by calling out The Rock. I don’t see any respect on Cena’s end. Then he also comes off like a tattletale about gay jokes. Then he writes a novel on Twitter looking for some sort of reaction from The Rock.
The part that annoys me the most is Cena trying to bash having a life outside the ring. Cena’s main focal point is attacking Rocky’s acting career because he has been successful. It comes off a lot like sour grapes, even though that isn’t supposed to be the intention.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Feb 5, 2012 11:08 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
The part that annoys me the most is Cena trying to bash having a life outside the ring. Cena’s main focal point is attacking Rocky’s acting career because he has been successful. It comes off a lot like sour grapes, even though that isn’t supposed to be the intention
He’s calling out the Rock for insulting the fans’ intelligence and telling them what they want to hear instead of the truth. And for coming in on his nostalgia run and leapfrogging all of the guys who are on the road year round. I don’t necessarily agree with that, but Cena isn’t alone in his criticism. Ziggler, Punk, and Orton have expressed similar sentiments.
As far as calling the Rock out on his homophobic comments goes, I’ll echo Punk in saying that if you act like an idiot you should be called out for it.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
by sun yue on Feb 6, 2012 2:40 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Cena trying to guilt trip The Rock for leaving is tiring. Is WWE supposed to be some Mafia business, “In it ’till you die?”. People do retire and move on. Nothing special there. Is Cena going to start on Shawn Michaels? Or would he only begrudge Michaels once his television show became a major success?
Who doesn’t understand Rock is coming back part time? Saying he’ll never leave WWE doesn’t mean he’ll be there 24/7. I’m waiting for Cena to bitch about the Undertaker….“But we only see you three times a year!! You abandoned us!” Enough.
by Mr. Sunny Days on Feb 6, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Of course everyone knows the Rock's only back part time,
but why can’t he admit that? I respect that the Rock decided to pursue other ventures, and it’s selfish and petty to say he should devote his life to wrestling. However, I also understand why other wrestlers, particularly wrestlers like Punk and Cena who have unyielding passion for the business, would take issue with his return. And I don’t think it’s unreasonable for them to feel that way, even though I don’t necessarily agree.
Taker and HBK are in different situations than the Rock. They’re both clearly ‘in it for life.’ The Rock is closer, but not as extreme as Lesnar in the sense that he left because he wanted to try something else.
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Agree
It’s my understanding that Cena’s gripe with The Rock stems from his waltzing back into the spotlight whenever he’s got a movie to promote or downtime in between films. Rock always plays this down and relies on his nostalgia appeal and “zingers”. The fact is that he’s using the WWE and it’s fanbase to further his once dwindling (tooth fairy, witch mountain, faster), but now resurgent movie career. Cena can’t come out and say that because it would likely undermine The Rock/ WWE symbiotic agreement, but that’s what he’s implying. Whatever though, they’ve got to create a compelling storyilne without much interaction between the two, so this was probably the most viable option. The angle is backwards. Rock is the heel but just like the Jericho experiment, he’s being cheered because he’s back, not for what he does. There’s really nothing wrong with that, but it shows just how sheepish WWE fans are.
Sidenote, has there been any connection between the Jericho troll storyline and The Rock? Seems like it could have been a subtle parody of the Rock’s return(s)….Cheer me for no reason other than my presence. Smile, and leave. Sounds like the Rock to me.
by thejasten on Feb 6, 2012 5:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I never thought about a Jericho/Rock connection,
but now I hope it’s true.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
By Jericho-Rock connection, I don’t necessarily mean storyline wise, although that would be awesome…But maybe a sorta rib on the Rock…. Jericho seems like he would do something like that just to prove a point and given the fact that there has been no explanation for it (so far) or storyline connection to the trolling, parodying the rock just may explain it. Just another example of Jericho thinking outside the box, and absolutely nobody “getting” it.
I think he was using the return cliche, not just the Rock
A lot of wrestlers do the return and pander to the crowd thing. Jericho is making fun of all of them. It’s not like the Rock is the only person to ever return to cheers.
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 10:03 AM EST up reply actions
Rock’s already acknowledged that he’ll only be here part time, if indirectly. Pretty much every video package about him has been highlighting how his schedule is busy.
Why is this even an issue? It’s not the fans that are whining about it. There’s no big outcry, Rock was gone and the fanbase was pretty much fine with it (same for Austin, Foley, Lesnar, Batista, Jericho, Michaels – fans are uncomplaining with wrestlers moving on). It was Cena, and by extension WWE, thrashing Rock in interviews for years with the same tired shtick about leaving as if he were some AWOL soldier deserting.
Again, why is that? Why does Cena/WWE begrudge one person for leaving and not the others? Why is it they can’t move on with that one person?
Now Rock comes back and still they keep on trashing him as they had been doing. More guilt trips. More of that “He’s not there” shtick implying he doesn’t care about the fans. More of that subtle undermining. The only difference now is that Rock responds by highlighting his extensive wrestling heritage on their own TV show. Did Cena/WWE expect Rock to quit his movie career and work for them full time? Surely not. It’s disingenuous to keep on whining when they could be promoting this appropriately.
As for Cena and Punk having “unyielding passion” for the business? Wasn’t the case when Cena would leave to shoot his WWE produced movies. And Punk’s whole MITB thing was threatening to leave and not sign a new contract. Unyielding passion….HBK is retired but has his hunting show, Bret Hart was filming Lonesome Dove, Steve Austin was on Nash Bridges and McMahon himself has such unyielding passion for his business and company that he attempted the World Bodybuilding Federation, the XFL, the WWE Nightclub and WWE Films. Disingenuous much?
This Cena/Rock “match” is business but also WWE politics at their worst.
“The fact is that he’s using the WWE and it’s fanbase to further his once dwindling (tooth fairy, witch mountain, faster), but now resurgent movie career.”
Action movies are part of a market that hasn’t been doing well for over a decade unless it’s sequels, established franchises or adaptations. The Disney movies are profitable and that’s what matters for an actor. To be attached to successful box offices, regardless of genre. It’s how they ensure their longevity and future roles. It was a better strategy to do Disney movies with good box office than pump action movies that successively fail to generate good receipts. Rock’s been doing pretty well and now that he attached himself to successful action franchises he’s doing even better.
by Mr. Sunny Days on Feb 6, 2012 4:06 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Why is it so hard to understand that these guys have a legitimate gripe?
Imagine being a wrestler in WWE. The Rock, the biggest star in the company, leaves to film Disney movies (obviously a completely different situation than leaving for company produced movies) and, in the process, disassociates himself with pro-wrestling. He tells the millions (and millions) that he doesn’t want to be “The Rock” anymore and erases his history as a wrestler. After a few years, your boss throws more cash at him than you’ll ever see to come back and wrestle in the most coveted spot in the industry. And he’s The Rock again. Suddenly he’s the guy who will never leave again and he’s one of the boys, a wrestler bred from a long line of wrestlers.
But he’s not a wrestler first. He’s an actor first, and a wrestler second. He’s a guest star on an extended cameo. Even when Punk wanted a break and Cena was filming WWE movies and Y2J went on numerous breaks for Fozzy, they were all wrestlers first. They didn’t or weren’t trying to downplay their wrestling careers when they had their breaks. Hell, Punk was probably going to pop up at Indy shows and start wrestling in those. Sure, his returns are cool and saying he’ll never leave again sounds nice, but he’s left before. He’s distanced himself from the business before. You and the other wrestlers are the guys on the road every day, and yet the prodigal son gets top billing at Survivor Series, Wrestlemania, and love from the millions.
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the wrestlers to feel some resentment.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
by sun yue on Feb 6, 2012 7:38 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Having a solid reason to feel resentment still doesn’t make it right to feel resentment. I totally understand how they could feel this way, but on the other the hand, they also have to face reality. When Rocky is live, he gets huge ovations. And I don’t think it is just because of the ‘return pop’. If they don’t have that same anger towards Vince, then they are just a bunch of crybabies. Vince is the one that wheeled a barrel full of cash to The Rock’s doorstep. Vince is the one that doesn’t have confidence in the locker room.
Those feelings don’t seem to hold up to the image of Mr. Hustle, Loyalty, Respect. It just comes off a lot like jealousy and tattling, especially over something that is inconsequential. It would be one thing if the fans agreed with Cena, but I don’t think most do. Cena is comes off looking like a chump, which may be his master plan anyway so Rocky fans can boo Cena even more.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Feb 6, 2012 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
The allegiance mentality of being a “wrestler first” needs to stop and more of these wrestlers need to act like the independent contractors they are supposed to be. Leave and enter the business as you please while working with the promoters in mutually beneficial arrangements. Bravo on John Morrison for leaving to heal injuries and hone his craft.
Rock gets top billing and the love of millions because he has attained a level in and out of wrestling that they haven’t reached. He’ll recoup the cash that’s thrown at him. He is not on equal ground with these resentful wrestlers. Instead of being bitter about it they should work on improving and reaching that same status themselves.
Unlike many wrestlers who overstay their welcome, The Rock retired and opened up a big spot for a young hungry wrestler to fill. Creates an opportunity for them to rise up to the challenge. And yet, he gets trashed for years due to his departure.
The Rock comes back for special appearances, ensures they all get bigger Wrestlemania paydays by his presence, does not take their spots week after week, gets their main eventer an endorsement deal…And yet, he get trashed for not coming back full time and not being “one of the boys”.
I find it absolutely pathetic.
by Mr. Sunny Days on Feb 7, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
you touched on a huge point
about leaving and opening a spot.
would there be a john cena if the rock had not left. I mean he was the next guy that made it right. orton was close to that time but with his name I figure he was always gonna make it. but cena was a no name
He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were
by Elstriko on Feb 7, 2012 1:15 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
It's more than just leaving.
It’s about leaving and completely distancing himself from his history as a wrestler, as if he was ashamed of it. And now he’s back saying he’ll never leave, but he’s already expressed his embarrassment towards wrestling. Naturally, some of the wrestlers aren’t exactly ecstatic to see him back and they don’t buy what he’s selling. Surprise, surprise, even pro wrestlers have human reactions and emotions.
Frankly, I wish he’d just own up to it. Rather than saying nice things like “I’m back and I’m never leaving again” I wish he’d just admit that he left for a movie career, was embarrassed about his past as a wrestler, but that he’s over it and he’s not going to try and hide it anymore. If he just owned up, Cena wouldn’t have any ammunition. Instead, he’s resorted to schoolyard homophobic jokes. It’s bush league and I expect more from a guy who calls himself the most electrifying man in all of entertainment.
Together we are Ruining Your Special Night. Twice.
by sun yue on Feb 7, 2012 3:15 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Jilted feelings vs Business?
We’re going to have to divorce ourselves from this conversation due to irreconcilable differences :D
by Mr. Sunny Days on Feb 7, 2012 10:56 AM EST up reply actions
As far as calling the Rock out on his homophobic comments goes, I’ll echo Punk in saying that if you act like an idiot you should be called out for it.
My comment here isn’t related to the article, but you jogged my memory about something.
Did anyone else think Punk was making a gay joke about Daniel Bryan on Raw? Bryan said he doesn’t eat meat, and then Punk said something like ‘what do you eat?’ and made a goofy face. I don’t know what Punk was trying to get at, but his delivery confused me. If taken literally, it is a pretty stupid comment. That’s why it made me think he was making a gay joke. I don’t really care either way, but I’m just curious if anyone else thought that too.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Feb 6, 2012 4:26 AM EST up reply actions
I have a vegan friend
and whenever she tells people she doesn’t eat meat the first questions is always “what do you eat then?” with a legitimately surprised face as if not eating meat is insane. I think he was mocking that silly reaction rather than cracking a gay joke.
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Yeah, that's what i thought too
Knowing Punk’s history of insults, I’m 90% sure it was a dick joke.
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 10:04 AM EST up reply actions
I thought it was a decently funny comment
Nothing that had laughing like a hyena, but it a funny comment nonetheless. People shouldn’t be that sensitive about jokes like that.
Doubt it
Punk is vocal in his pro-gay attitudes. Doubt he’d randomly be like that.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I actually think it was a dick joke
It could be what Sun Yue was talking about above with a mocking “What do you heat?” but the smirk on his face sold a penis reference for me.
Agree totally that Punk is pro-gay. He was upset that the video of him calling someone a homo in Australia had him labeled as anti-gay. I think he was just using “homo” there as an insult without thinking of the meaning, just like I think he used a penis eating joke the same way on Raw.
I agree
Hard to convince me it was even mocking a conversational, genuinely curious inquiry on the diets of a typical vegan on the most important non-PPV show for the company. It’s a silly thing to try and mock and it is highly likely that his intent was a dick joke. Especially when his goal that night was to get a reaction from his fanbase which seems to be late-teens/twenties (young adults), who also share an affinity for D. Bryan even despite his recent heel turn. He needed to get a reaction, and dick jokes get reactions.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 7, 2012 8:51 AM EST up reply actions
Do you hear Punk
He does not go a single week without making a gay joke.
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions
The highest form of tolerence
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
He uses them as insults
Its not tolerance, it’s ignorance
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 2:03 PM EST up reply actions
No its tolerence
Ignorence is just ignoring that because it may offend people. It’s often trying to not offened people that offends them because they just wanted to be treated the same as everyone else.
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
....what?
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 2:23 PM EST up reply actions
I think it was a vagina joke
Think this through people, he’s vegan..he has an kayfabe girlfriend…what is an activity that a large perentage of couples enjoy engaging in.
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
It's not an insult thought
Or if it is, it’s a dumb one
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think it's oneof those questions you ask in a joking manner
Players who should be in the Hall of Fame: Pat TIllman, Dwight White, Donnie Shell, L.C. Greenwood, Ray Guy, Steve Tasker, Jack Butler, Greg Lloyd, Andy Russell, Cris Carter, Kevin Greene, Curtis Martin, Willie Roaf, Andre Reed and Jerry Kramer
"Clemson should've stopped turning the ball over" Dana Holgorsen when asked about running up the score in the Orange Bowl
It was intended as an insult though
These aren’t two friends shooting the breeze. They were about to come to blows.
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by C. J. Bradford on Feb 6, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions
Punk & Bryan have been friends for over 10yrs, I am sure they have actually had this conversation jokingly at some point. So Punk using it to make jokes or whatever in storyline isn’t hurting Bryan’s feelings. In fact, I think Bryan is the one guy Punk is trying to elevate. Maybe he knows how to get Bryan’s personality to shine through more?
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by Rawuncutnxrated on Feb 7, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions
Smh. Not this again.
TeamFilmIt? Really? Repetitive mangina jokes? The Rock sounds like he couldn’t care less while Cena seems to be taking it too seriously.
by E-ROC on Feb 5, 2012 11:22 PM EST via Android app reply actions 1 recs
Entertaining exchange
Totally agree with Cena being a total hypocrite about the gay comments. The man pretty much called Justin Gabriel gay as an insult throughout the entire Nexus feud. Gay jokes is all he’s got asides from “not giving in.”
I like that the war is escalating on twitter and wish Cena would have shown this passion after WM last year and SS this year instead of putting the Rock over. I don’t think his argument holds water (if a man wants to retire to movies, he should be allowed to while still complimenting the WWE) but he’s passionate on his stance. The Rock in this exchange was entertaining. Nothing new from either end. Both had a few good lines and otherwise rehashed usual.
Cena came out on top in that exchange
The Rock can have his offensive insults – Cena’s talking truth. Wonder just how much of this is actually uncensored words coming from the two of them… I’m guessing none of it.
I don't get this at all.
To me, this seems like John Cena the WWE Superstar has a problem with The Rock but Dwayne Johnson has a problem with John Cena the person. Even if this is Cena the Superstar vs. Rock the Superstar, they’re both kind of retarded.
Cena: The Rock left, I’ll never leave! USA!
This is fucking ridiculous. The Rock left because he accomplished everything — literally everything — there was to accomplish in the WWE. Cena saying he’ll never leave is dumb. He’ll retire eventually. John Cena is employed full-time by the WWE. The Rock is not. This makes all his “I’m way more loyal to the WWE fans than Rocky is” ring super hollow because Rock coming back has everyone who used to be fans tuning back in. Dismissing Rock’s history in the WWE is also stupid. He’s not The Blue Meanie for fuck’s sake. He’s The Rock.
Rock: Cena is gay! GI JOE!
Rock, I love you. You’re my 2nd favorite wrestler of all time. I’ll basically love whatever you do, even if it sucks. I loved your comebacks because you said them, but taking a step back and looking at things from an unbiased perspective, this was half-assed and lame. You can’t call someone else gay when you’ve built a career on threatening to shove your body parts/inanimate objects up other men’s anuses. You say Cena is lame and sure, that’s true, but that’s also sort of his character. Would you say “Del Rio is elitist! Miz is duck lipey! Lawler is a perv!” No, because that’s what their characters are supposed to be. I want you to out talk Cena, and that shouldn’t be a problem for one of — if not the — best talker in the history of the business. Try harder, please. I get you’re filming GI Joe 4 and 7ast & 7urious, but if you’re going to give the WWE one last nostalgia run, don’t half ass it.
seems like John Cena the WWE Superstar has a problem with The Rock but Dwayne Johnson has a problem with John Cena the person
Anytime Cena and other WWE wrestlers try to belittle and undermine The Rock you hear them use “Dwayne”. So I disagree that Cena is only attacking the character.
Cena is lame and sure, that’s true, but that’s also sort of his character. Would you say "Del Rio is elitist! Miz is duck lipey! Lawler is a perv!" No, because that’s what their characters are supposed to be.
Cena is not supposed to be lame. Being lame is not his character. Cena’s a wholesome superman. That doesn’t equate to necessarily being lame. Just like CM Punk publicly called Del Rio boring, being boring is not Del Rio’s character. Del Rio’s character is that of elitist aristocrat. Both cases of wrestlers failing to entertain a lot of their audience with their characters.
It’s too bad the whole promotion of Cena/Rock is based on WWE holding a grudge against a successful wrestler for leaving. shake my head
by Mr. Sunny Days on Feb 6, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
for everyone saying that Rock has the right to leave WWE.
Of course he has the right. However, the point here is that last year when he returned he said, ‘Im never eeever going to leave’. Well the currents stars have a problem with him saying that and then appearing 5 or 6 times on Live television.
Not a Cena fan. But just saying, whether it be storyline, or real sentiments, the Rock should not have said that.
What if the Rock had said, ‘Dwayne Johnson is back and he has issues with John Cena. I will fight one more match and thats all you will see of me in the ring for the rest of your lives. Now can you smellllll what the Rock is…’
That wasn't the best thing for the Rock to say
Though we all knew when he said it that he didn’t mean it. Part of me wondered whether or not he said it to give Cena fuel for the feud. I honestly don’t know how much of this feud is scripted and how much is personal (concerning their views on the other that is.)
Technically, the Rock hasn’t left yet. He’s slated for a bunch of Raws and then obviously Mania. However, I have no doubt that after Mania that he will leave.
Precisely.
I guess majority of the feud is scripted. But what Punk, Ziggler and Cena have been groaning about is quite true indeed. Rock returned before Wrestlemania, set up a match that would guarantee him millions. Came on RAW next while celebrating the success of FAST 5. Bad mouths Cena. Has a match at SS. Now we get a video of him which also plugs Journey 2.
I think i read somewhere that he is slated for RAWs after WM as well. Its great that WWE and Dwayne are able to help each other. But that “im back home” and "never leaving " line just doesnt feel very good. I say all this because i just for a moment thought that every alternate RAW iwould see some amazing promos. And once in a couple of months i would see the great one going one on one with a jabroni. ALAS!
I WANT their WM match to be FAN-FCKING-TABULOUS.
Sorry for the rant.
I heard those reports too
And I believe that the biggest complaint about the Rock from the guys (I heard the report referring to I believe Punk and Orton) was that he would ignore all the young guys. Something along those lines — I don’t have any references or links unfortunately, just a vague recollection.
I don’t believe he gives a damn about Ryder either. He just said “Woo woo woo. I love that stuff” to the MSG crowd not to look like a jerk and to get himself over.
I’m throwing a lot of Rock hate here and to tell you truth, I still love the guy as an entertainer and I’m glad he’s back even in a limited role. He’s still very entertaining on the mic and still looked good in the ring. WWE has a very weak roster right now (especially with injuries) and Rock showing up time to time can help them out.
An aside: I fully expect him to lose to John Cena because I can’t imagine even the WWE having a retired wrestler get put over by a full time star. My hope is that they are going to use this match and the “the Rock is clearly a d-bag who the fan for some reason love angle” that turns Cena heel at Mania. Just a hope.
Am I the only one getting bored by this already? Especially considering it’s taken up valuable time on PPVs like the Royal Rumble? Also, Cena’s angle with Kane has barely mentioned the Rock. I can only think of one time the Rock was ever mentioned in it, BY KANE. Cena’s the one going to fight the Rock, and Kane is the one keeping that alive in their angle?
Time to spread a little chaos...
Boring
Doesn’t do it for me.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Feb 6, 2012 10:54 AM EST via mobile reply actions
This is a dumb angle
at least Hulk was still actively wrestling in the WWE when he faced off with the Rock at Wreslemania X8
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by TheAngryApe on Feb 6, 2012 3:49 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
god this is lame
fuck both of these guys, this is one WM match I won’t be watching
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The only reason Cena's doing this
Is because Vince is telling him too.
It's almost like...
these guys are ruining a match that already has a perfect set-up. Each guy’s stance in this feud has been done to death so I’m not going to go into that. What I will say though is that this pathetic Twitter bitch-fest between them is tedious to say the least. They’re both huge names and will create the biggest (note: not best) match in the history of wrestling.
The cheap potshots by Dwayne add nothing to the feud except to allow his 20+ year old fan boys to “mark out” over his school yard hashtags. #hustleloyaltyvagisil, really?
Cena’s whining is grinding my gears too. Blah, blah he raises about 3 separate points. He’s there, Rock isn’t and the Rock’s a sell-out. OK we get it, we don’t need to see an essay ending with your equally cringe-worthy soundbites.
Think I’m going to ignore this cyber-feud and not over analyse it. (Seriously you guys on here need to relax) I’ll just enjoy what should be a great match at ‘Mania, I’ll see it through my eyes which is two huge names who seem to have a genuine gripe go at it at the biggest stage of them all.
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