TNA Against All Odds post-event reactions: Bobby Roode, Austin Aries, Gail Kim retain; new tag champs crowned
There you have it, folks. TNA's second pay-per-view (PPV) offering of 2012 is in the books. Against All Odds went off tonight -- not without a hitch but we'll get to that later -- but it wasn't the abomination that the Orlando promotion is seemingly known for.
And that's not without just cause. The wonky booking of TNA has largely overshadowed the talented group of performers they have and has left many people who wouldn't give TNA a chance with a lot of ammo to use when burying the company and even some TNA apologists grasping at straws when explaining their storyline choices.
Going into the show, the big angle was that of the TNA World Heavyweight title; as it should be. While the WWE can afford to have one of its biggest stars -- John Cena -- toil around with Kane, TNA needs to put its most prestigious belt at the forefront and it's been doing a good job of that.
Bobby Roode continues his fine role as a rulebreaker and was set to take on his former partner James Storm as well as fan favorite Jeff Hardy and loudmouth toughman Bully Ray with Sting as the special enforcer.
None of those four men have made it any secret that Roode isn't at the top of their favorites list and it's almost fitting the event was named Against All Odds as the champ would go on to defend his title despite having the deck stacked against him.
But that wasn't all TNA had in store for us. Check out the full recap after the jump.
The show opened up with what promised to be a hot opener between Zema Ion and Jesse Sorensen battling it out for number one contendership to the X-Division title. The match was only minutes old when Ion leapt out at his opponent on the outside and ended up catching Sorensen with a knee to the dome, knocking out the young TNA star cold.
Legitimately injured, the match went to a countout but Ion did his best to work the unexpected occurrence into his cocky, arrogant character. Latest word from TNA is Sorensen suffered some sort of neck injury. Here's hoping it's nothing serious and he's back inside the ring soon.
Next up, Television champ Robbie E came out to issue his open challenge which was answered by Shannon Moore. A decent little match-up took place which was won out by the champ after his bodyguard, Robbie T, coldclocked Moore behind the referee's back.
Gail Kim then retained her Knockouts title despite having her Knockouts tag team partner Madison Rayne leave ringside mid-match. Kim was able to fend off Tara's challenge but it looks as if the tag champs may implode which would open up Rayne as a potential challenger to Kim's throne.
The tag team straps were up for grabs in the next match as champions Crimson and Matt Morgan took on the team of Samoa Joe and Magnus. A by-the-numbers tag match -- not that there's anything wrong with that ... if it ain't broke, don't fix it -- which saw a super hot finish. Joe and Magnus ended up taking the belts from Crimson and Morgan which saw a good reaction from the crowd.
Long-time foes Austin Aries and Alex Shelley collided with the X-Division title at stake next and in what was the match of the night, Aries retained his title. The two X-Division matches were perfectly placed on this card. One -- despite its unexpected and premature ending -- opened the show up and one was the mid-show main event. The X-Division matches are a surefire way to get the crowd pumped up and the title match was no exception. Aries and Shelley have been wrestling each other for years and have the back and forth to show for it which led to a really fun match.
A.J. Styles took on former friend Kazarian in the next match. Kazarian is seemingly under the control of Christopher Daniels for some reason and the former Fortune member obeys "The Fallen Angel's" every command. A good match between the two that saw Kazarian pick up the win after a Fade to Black finisher. Daniels celebrated and gloated in the ring while Kazarian looked beside himself. Not sure where TNA is going with this but hey, that's not necessarily a bad thing.
The co-main event was ... ugh ... Gunner versus Garrett Bischoff. Gunner won. Who cares? This was insulting to everyone watching this. Absolutely no one cares about Eric Bischoff's kid and the fact they keep trotting him out like he's ... ANYONE is a disgrace. This match absolutely killed any momentum the show had going into the main event.
Speaking of the main event, as stated previously, Roode won. And he should have. The TNA title had been jumping around too much before Roode got a hold of it and it's good to see someone bring back some legitimacy to it. Granted, Roode won after goading Sting into trying to hit him with the belt only to have the special enforcer nail Jeff Hardy with it but that's the champion's character.
As evidenced by how he won the title -- smashing a beer bottle over his partner's skull -- Roode is sick and tired of not getting what he feels he deserves and will do anything to make sure he keeps the belt.
I would love to see Bully Ray get a title run before he retires -- at 40-years old, he isn't too long for the in-ring world -- but Roode should hang onto the belt as long as possible. He's still got two money feuds in Hardy and James Storm in the wing, there's no reason to forgo that.
I would love to see Storm upend Roode eventually only to have Bully Ray come in a month or two later to take the strap. Let Ray have his time in the sun until Hardy -- playing up their long history -- defeats him for the title. Roode and Hardy about a year from now sounds pretty good.
Overall, pretty good show aside from the Gunner/Bischoff debacle.
What say you, Cagesiders?
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Russo's likely gone, so that's a huge positive.
But I’ve just been burned by TNA too many times to give it a chance until it gets some serious momentum on its heels, and judging by the quiet response they’ve been receiving ever since Victory Road, so has everyone else.
It’s a pity TNA seems finished even after they finally made a huge step forward, but Dixie Carter has no one to blame for that but herself.
Better PPV match for match than Royal Rumble
Rumble had CM Punk and Dolph. That was the only match worth a damn. Every TNA Against All Odds match was good outside of those Bischoff’s and their nepotism…
Oh and last Thursday’s IMPACT was 10x better than last Raw …
TNA..superior wrestling, as to be expected. Now Asterisk, go get ready to watch Raw tomorrow with the millions and millions of 8-14 year old kids…it’ll get better ratings than TNA so it must be a better product wink wink
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 2:28 AM EST up reply actions
It doesn't matter how good a promotion actually is.
What matters is how good a promotion is perceived to be by the general public.
WCW circa 1998 was every bit as bad as any pro wrestling promotion could ever be, but WCW was still perceived to be good by the general public due to the good will generated by WCW starting from the Outsider’s debut, which was as good as any pro wrestling promotion has ever been.
WWE has had something similar happen to it, RAW has been almost completely unwatchable since the Guest Host era started, and Smackdown has been unwatchable ever since the Kane title reign, but WWE not only has the benefit of goodwill from the last pro wrestling boom, but it also has the benefit of a monopoly on its hands, so it can be awful and profitable a lot longer than WCW. Though it’s already commenced draconian cost cutting measures due to a profit shortfall.
By contrast, TNA has spent almost its entire existence being completely embarrassing to watch for almost its entire existence, which is why no matter how many good matches they air, or even however good the quality of any given episode is, TNA still gets awful ratings and shitty buyrates, and until TNA starts showing consistently quality programming for a sustained, as in year long, period of time, it will never become popular or profitable.
Thanks for the report bro but I know all this
It takes time for ratings to change, I agree. It’s like 1995 WCW and early 1996, the wrestling was fucking awesome but it took a while for the ratings to change…Eventually with the Outsiders stuff they finally passed WWF for a while.
And then like you say, when WCW was getting bad in 1998 and later, they were still doing good on their name.
But the point I made is WWE f’n blows right now and anyone who supports them over TNA doesn’t know WRESTLING. Because the WRESTLING is superior in TNA.
And like I said, when the mass of 8-14 year old kids is the difference in ratings (which it is right now for WWE)…we shouldn’t be impressed (I know I damn sure am not by their ‘wrestling’). I don’t care if they get better ratings just like I don’t care if a crap Disney show gets good ratings. I’ve been watching wrestling for a long time and I can see with my own eyes what wrestling is better.
Long live WCW 1995-1997 the pinnacle of wrestling.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:01 AM EST up reply actions
By the way...
1998 WCW is still eons better than the bullshit around today…that’s a fact.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
2000-2001 WCW...maybe not
2001 WCW might be the worst. WCW Sin 2001. Gross PPV, last WCW one.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:02 AM EST up reply actions
I’m not a huge TNA fan, I prefer Raw because of the anything-can-happen factor. But I at least concede to the view that TNA has the superior talent. I think you’ll see a significant jump in TNAs ratings over this next year If they continue their recent strategy of A. Pushing new stars like Roode, Storm, Ray and B. Shoring up the mid-card roster with Indy guys/young fresh talent as oposed to their former strategy of filling up the mid-card with ex-WWE talent. I also think OVW and Ring ka King are solid long term investements that will pay off 3,4,5 years from now.
I agree that TNA has the better wrestlers
but WWE has a slight edge in booking, Cena/Kane and Cena/Rock being the obvious exclusions
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by WVPiratesfan on Feb 13, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not a supporter of either promotion at the moment.
WWE has been completely awful outside of a handful of storylines since the Kane title reign back in 2010, and TNA has been completely awful even though it has a lot of great wrestlers since 2002.
With few exceptions,* when both options are as bad as the other, there’s no point in supporting either.
*i.e., the English aligning with Joseph Stalin to save the free world from Adolph Hitler.
I think the main problem most people have had withTNA is how the talent are booked, not at any lack of talent. There are plenty of good wrestlers on their roster, TNA just hasn’t figured out what to do with them.
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by FarmerInTheCity on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 AM EST reply actions
This was a response to the above comment.
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by FarmerInTheCity on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 AM EST up reply actions
That's obvious
But like I say, if you watched Against All Odds you’d see a pretty damn good PPV. Better than the garbage WWE sends us with Miz and all the other guys over there that can’t wrestle a lick.
When TNA doesn’t book themselves into the ground, they do fine. Because their wrestling is superior.
Only thing that was terrible was the Bischoff match. And that’s typical nepotism within wrestling just like all the McMahon bullshit we were subjected to for years.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:05 AM EST up reply actions
Watched Impact for the first time in a while on Thursday
And I was reminded that there is some decent talent in TNA. Guys that could be very big in the WWE as well given the chance.
Which made it all the more annoying how poorly booked the promotion is.
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And the Valley Shook
It's been better though
I don’t know why everyone acts like WWE has brilliant creative / bookers. They constantly degrade their belts by having their guys win the belts and then job in non-title matches…Bloated Jericho comes off the street at 50% of what he was in WCW and is the top heel…Miz is constantly in main events and at the top of the card despite the fact that he blows at wrestling and gets others hurt…etc
So let’s not act like 2012 WWE is fucking 1996 WCW…WWE is horseshit booking and they have no wrestling; they are kept alive in the ratings by all the little fucking kids and the parents who buy the merch and PPVs. If they didn’t have that demographic they’d be drawing 1.5’s on Raw or worse
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 11:02 AM EST up reply actions
Dude. Relax. No need to start acting like a buffoon and throw around “fucks” and “shits” to attempt to prove your completely subjective point. You are making yourself sound like an idiot.
If you want us to give a shit about whether you think TNA is better than WWE or WCW 15 years ago, try to make your points better than “fucking 13 year olds are stupid and can’t somehow enjoy and appreciate wrestling so their views don’t count!”
Did you ever stop to think that you aren’t actually part of WWEs target demographic? They don’t make money and stay afloat off of you. They do off those young kids that mark out over Cena. TNA may try to please smarks like you, but they obviously aren’t making money from it. And one good PPV doesn’t change their track record of blowing their PPV headliners on smoz and dq finishes and then giving them away on free tv the following week.
Good wrestling doesn’t always equate to a good fan experience.
by 8bitDan on Feb 13, 2012 2:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
You just said “dude relax” yet you said “smarks like you”. And btw your article makes no sense. The children that grew up with Cena are now older and probably lost interest in the WWE. The WWE knows they don’t need a good product to make money and all they care about is merchandise and PPV sells. They know that people who don’t even watch wrestling will still be interested in watching a Royal Rumble or Wrestlemania regardless. I am a huge WCW fan and find that TNA is very similar as they are a far superior product in terms of actual wrestling. The WWE is a joke of a show, if you don’t believe me go watch the Royal Rumble a few weeks ago. Basically it’s Vince saying “TNA is not yet a legitimate threat so let’s just throw a curveball any time people figure out what our plans are”.
by billsfan_905 on Feb 13, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
Christ calm down, you come off as a whack job.
by Chris Cutrer on Feb 13, 2012 5:50 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
I can't say I liked the PPV
I miss the London crowd, a dead crowd can make any match seem worse than it is or boring. And lets be honest a lot of their booking is the absolute worst and how they book and pace their shows is more important that the quality of the matches. Two hours in to the show felt like 5 hours.
Shelly vs. Aries was great and it took them busting their ass for 97% of the match for the crowd to finally react to them.
Overall they do a piss poor job of building their guys up, and creating consistency when it comes to their booking. Say what you will about WWE but they are at least consistant with their storylines even if they have crappy payoffs, and occasionally they produce amazing stories and I can’t remember the last time TNA even approached something that would be considered amazing.
by Anthony Steven Lewis on Feb 13, 2012 3:30 PM EST reply actions




















