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TNA Against All Odds results and live match coverage TONIGHT (Feb. 12)

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TNA returns to the United States as Against All Odds is all set to pop off tonight (Sun., Feb. 12, 2012) from the Impact Zone in Orlando, FL at 8 p.m. ET, live on pay-per-view (PPV).

CagesideSeats.com will provide LIVE blow-by-blow, match-by-match coverage of the event below, beginning with the first match of the evening and right on through to the main event.

Although it's only two days from Valentine's Day, there will be no love lost inside the Impact Zone tonight. Former friends collide when A.J. Styles takes on Kazarian and chip off the ol' block Garrett Bischoff takes on Gunner. Gail Kim looks to defend her Knockouts title against Tara while Crimson and Matt Morgan hope to retain their tag straps against the team of Samoa Joe and Magnus. Austin Aries and Alex Shelley vie for the X-Division title but will also keep an eye on the Jesse Sorensen and Zema Ion match-up which will decide the next contender. And in the main event, Bobby Roode's TNA World Heavyweight Championship is on the line with Bully Ray, James Storm and Jeff Hardy all looking to become the Orlando promotion's top dog.

Kick your shoes off, relax, and enjoy all the action with your favorite pro wrestling website. And remember to keep refreshing!

Full results and match coverage after the jump.

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TNA AGAINST ALL ODDS RESULTS AND LIVE BLOG

Zema Ion def. Jesse Sorensen for number one contendership for the TNA X Division Championship
Robbie E (c) def. Shannon Moore after Moore answered Robbie E's open TV title match challenge
Samoa Joe and Magnus def. Matt Morgan and Crimson to win the TNA World Tag Team Championship
Kazarian def. A.J. Styles
Austin Aries (c) def. Alex Shelley for the TNA X Division Championship
Gail Kim (c) def. Tara for the TNA Knockout Championship
Gunner def. Garett Bischoff
Bobby Roode (c) def. Bully Ray vs. James Storm vs. Jeff Hardy for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship

Sergio here, let's get things kicked off!

Zema Ion vs. Jesse Sorensen

Fast action to start. Sorensen flipping Ion up and over all over the place. Hurricanrana and Sorensen is in full control. Missile dropkick from Ion puts him in the driver's seat. Action spills to the outside.

Ion with a moonsault from the apron off the second turnbuckle and it looks like Sorensen takes it pretty badly. Sure enough, the match is called. Ion plays it off perfectly in accordance to his cocky, arrogant gimmick so at least something is salvaged from this.

This suck, the match was looking good so far.

Winner: Ion via countout

They do a replay of the moonsault and it looks like Sorensen was knocked out immediately after taking the hit. Injury seems completely legit as Mike Tenay and Jeremy Borash are killing time.

We go backstage where TNA World Heavyweight Champion Bobby Roode is cutting a promo. He dresses down each and every one on his challengers tonight. Says that Jeff Hardy and James Storm each had multiple chances to uncrown him but failed. As for Bully Ray, he can only assume it's greed that motivates the former Dudley. Roode says he can understand that but promises he still retain the belt.

Television Champion Robbie E comes out. Earlier in the day, he issued an open challenge for his strap. Let's see who responds...

It's Shannon Moore! He kinda looks like Lady Gaga's brother.

Television title match: Robbie E (c) vs. Shannon Moore

Lock up to start and Moore hits some early armdrags before a dropkick sends the champ to the outside. The champ makes his way to Robbie T and they both high tail up the ramp. Moore gives chase and attacks the champ. He puts Robbie E back into the ring but the champ ends up regaining contol.

Irish whip counter, armdrag, atomic drop combination from Moore puts him back in control. Second irish whip reversal gets Moore caught and dumped onto the apron where a running knee sends him back first into the guard rail. The champ firmly in control now with some boots and a big back elbow.

High flying move from the champ gets a two count as the crowd starts to get behind Moore. He uses the crowd's energy to land a big kick and both wrestlers are now on the mat. They're up and Moore is a house on fire! Punches, forearms, THEY'RE ALL LANDING.

Robbie E is scooped up and BOOM! GOES THE DYNAMITE. The champ rolls to the outside but Moore hits a baseball slide to his opponent's back before nailing him with an Asai moonsault! YOU STILL GOT IT (clap clap clapclapclap)!

Some near falls for Moore and Robbie T tries to interfere but no dice. Moore up top BUT MISSES! Robbie E hits a huge clotheslines and then tries his own top rope maneuver. But you're taking too long, Robbie! YOU'RE TAKING TOO DAMN LONG! Moore drops him off his nards and splats him back onto the mat for two.

They go back and forth, Moore rolls him up but Robbie E forces him off and towards the ropes where Robbie T clocks Moore something fierce allowing the champ to n

ail Moore with a jumping DDT for the three count.

Winner and STILL champion: Robbie E via pinfall

Knockouts title match: Gail Kim (c) vs. Tara

Does Tara still do the Widowmaker? That move is freakin' awesome. Probably the only good thing Shane Helms is known for. Unless you think getting messed up on booze and nearly killing your girlfriend is good. In which case, he's got two things.

Tara taking the fight immediately to the champion. Grabbing her by the hair and straight up gangstering her ass. Kim is the champ for a reason though and ends up getting the upper hand. At one point, though, Madison Rayne -- and one half of the Knockouts tag champ along with Kim -- deuces out and Kim is all whatever. I guess they're fighting now. Is it just me or is Madison foxy?

Hurricanrana from Kim and she's gloating but Tara hits a powerslam out of nowhere. Both on the mat as we get the count from the ref. Kim to her feet first but Tara slugs back and goes nutso on her. Swinging sidewalk slam for two from the challenger.

Both women on the top rope and Tara back body drops Kim onto the mat. Moonsault! BUT SHE HURT HER KNEE! Not really, though. But Tara's wearing a brace on it and sells it well. She crawls to the pin but only gets two. She tries to put the champ down for the count but Kim reverses and plants Tara into the mat for three.

Winner and STILL champion: Kim via pinfall

James Storm backstage with Christy Hemme giving a really awesome promo. I've always been a huge fan of his since the America's Most Wanted days.

World Tag Team title match: Matt Morgan and Crimson (c) vs. Samoa Joe and Magnus

Joe and Morgan start us off. They're doing the bouncing off the ropes and trying to knock each other over thing. Joe with a boot to the gut but Morgan knocks him on his butt. Joe, seriously, man, lose some weight. I can't blame him, though. If I hated my job as much as he probably does, I'd probably try to eat myself to death too.

Magnus and Crimson tagged in now. The champs in control until Joe grabs Crimson from the outside and drops him neck first onto the top rope. Joe's tagged in and begins to take it to the redheaded tag champ. A few minutes of Magnus beating up Crimson and then Joe is tagged in. Crimson tries to fight back but Joe powerslams the hell out of him for two.

Finally, Crimson gets to a boot to Joe in the corner and then a nifty second rope clothesline which puts the challenger on his back. AND THE TAG TO MORGAN! HE'S CLEANING HOUSE!

Okay, this finish is actually pretty awesome. Joe sets up Morgan for the snapmare/elbow drop but Morgan pushes him off and he racks Magnus on the top rope. Joe staggers back and Crimson charges for a spear but Joe sidesteps and Crimson nails his partner!

Joe tosses Crimson to the outside and then BAM! Snapmare on Morgan, elbow drop from Magnus and NEW champs!!

Winner and NEW champions: Samoa Joe and Magnus via pinfall

Backstage with Christy Hemme and Bully Ray. Holy hell, Ray is going off on Hemme. "No matter how much makeup you wear, no matter how you dress ... gimme the mic and go away, febble woman."

Best damn rulebreaker in the business, folks.

X-Division title match: Austin Aries (c) vs. Alex Shelley

Aries being a cocky jerk until Shelley finally starts taking it to him. Aries on the outside, Shelley jumps onto him from the inside turnbuckle, diving to the outside. Back inside the ring and Aries momentarily takes control until he springboards over the top rope for a senton but gets a back full of knee. A kick off the top rope from the challenger spills Aries to the outside and Shelley is ready to dive but the champ crawls underneath the ring! He pops up on the other side and nails Shelley from behind.

Shelley on the outside and Aries hits his awesome suicide dive before rolling the challenger back in, hitting the over the top rope senton and then taking control.

The challenger reverses a high impact move from Aries and nails the champ on the turnbuckle before hitting a running knee. Aries to the outside and once again under the ring but Shelley is like that robot Shiva from Marvel Comics. No one will get that reference. He catches Aries as the champ sneaks up and tosses him to the outside. SUICIDE DIVE!

Back inside the ring and Shelley misses a top rope double stomp but retains control and drops the champ on his head for a 2.99999 count. They go back and forth, Aries hits Shelley with a discus elbow and both men are on the mat and hurting.

Aries goes for a jumping clothesline in the corner but Shelley boots him in the face! Sliced Bread attempt blocked and both men are on the apron. A second Sliced Bread attempt is countered when the champ shoves Shelley into the ringpost and then nails the challenger with a DEATH VALLEY DRIVER ONTO THE APRON! Holy cow!

Double axe-handle from the champ, roll into the ring for two count. Aries up top and misses a splash! He rolls out of it but gets nailed with a Sliced Bread! One, two ... ARIES GRABS THE ROPE!

Aries gets the upper hand, DROPKICK IN THE CORNER, BRAINBUSTER~! AND ONE TWO .... KICKOUT!!!

This match is great.

Another brainbuster attempt is reversed into a small package. Boot to the head from Shelley ... TWO COUNT!

FREAKING AYE! Aries counters another Sliced Bread, brutalized Shelley with knees, hits a brainbuster and sinks in the Last Chancery submission for the tapout win!

Winner and STILL champion: Aries via submission

Great match.

Jeff Hardy backstage with Hemme complete the main event promo package.

A.J. Styles vs. Kazarian

A crying infant kept me from watching the opening minutes of this match. Sorry, Cagesiders but my daughter trumps TNA. CHIKARA on the other hand...

Alright, so Kazarian has got Styles in a submission but the Gator Wrestler is able to power out and they trade forearms. Two clothes from Styles, back brain kick and we've got a match on our hands! Suplex into a backbreaker, awesome!

Facebuster for two! Styles Clash is blocked but the TNA Triple Crown champ retains control. Another Styles Clash is blocked but this time Kazarian gets the upper hand. Styles on the apron and Kazarian leaps over the top rope and slams his opponent's head onto the mat.

Back inside the ring and both men are on the top turnbuckle. Styles is able to knock Kazarian off and flips into a reverse DDT for two. Chris Daniels is cheering Kazarian on but Styles is giving him the boots. Suplex from Styles is counter and Kazarian slams Styles into the mat.

They're trading pin attempts and Styles nails his opponents with the GATOR KICK! Styles on the apron, springboard ... TO THE OUTSIDE ONTO DANIELS! THAT WAS AWESOME! Styles then tries to springboard into the ring but is caught by Kazarian and nailed with a Fade to Black for three.

Winner: Kazarian via pinfall

Daniel is all yuks despite the bruised noggin but Kazarian is none too pleased.

Gunner and Eric Bischoff backstage with Hemme. Ugh, this match is coming up next...

Gunner vs. Garrett Bischoff

Garrett's tattoos are a perfect analogy for Hogan's and Eric Bischoff's role in TNA: lame, kind of nonsensical and overall unappealing.

They're slugging it out presumably because Garrett doesn't know how to actually wrestle. Daddy Bischoff grabs onto his son's ankle which puts Gunner in control. Garrett fights back.

Seriously, if anyone that was in the Impact Zone is reading this: don't cheer this crap. Just stay dead silent and hell, just boo the entire time. This has no place on any kind of wrestling show. This is nepotism at its worst and is an insult to anyone who considers themselves a fan of TNA which is touted as an "alternative."

Gunner working over Bischoff's neck, whatever.

Daddy Bischoff interferes again and Hogan decks his ex-best friend. The crowd chants for Hogan. Screw it, the mutants in the Impact Zone deserve this.

Baby Bischoff was hurting or something and Hogan was going to throw in the towel but Garrett said no and ended up getting DDT'd for the pin.

Screw you for this, TNA.

Winner: Gunner (loser: everyone who watched this)

Sting backstage with Hemme. Video package for the main event. This match better be awesome to make up for the crap we just sat through.

World Heavyweight title match: Bobby Roode (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Bully Ray vs. James Storm

They're milking the entrances.

Everyone in the ring and Bull Ray heads to the outside while Hardy and Storm double team the champ. Ray finally gets inside and takes out both Hardy and Storm. Roode is all like, cool brotha but Ray is all yeah right and lays him out with a Ray Bottom (trademark Cageside Seats).

Storm back up and nearly gets a pin on Roode after a lungblower. Beer Money sees a momentary reunion when Storm and Roode double suplex Ray but Roode attacks Storm afterwards. Hardy back in the picture and takes out Roode but Ray lays him out.

HUGE suplex from the corner and everyone but Ray is out. He can't get a pin on anyone. Hardy up and hits Ray with a Twist of Fate from a Bully Bomb counter. Referee bump after Ray blocks a spear from Roode and Hardy has Ray pinned but no one is there to count! Hardy up and speared by the champ! Storm up and attacks Roode! LAST CALL SUPERKICK!

ONE TWO ... BULL RAY PULLS HEBNER OUT!

Storm jumps to the outside but Ray moves out of the way and Storm nails Hebner. Back inside the ring, Hardy dodges Ray who gets spinebustered by the champ. Hardy cracks Roode and then goes for the Swanton but Roode moves out of the way.

The champ goes to the outside and grabs the belt, wanting to use it against Hardy but Sting stops him and grabs the strap. He and Roode jaw back and forth and Roode spits in Sting's face! Sting launches the belt and HITS HARDY ON ACCIDENT!

Roode is laughing! He covers Hardy and makes special enforcer Sting to make the three count!

Winner and STILL champion: Roode via pinfall

Roode laying it on thick with Sting, really making the Stinger feel like crap. Okay, TNA, you screwed the pooch with the Gunner/Bischoff match but this main event made up for it.

Pretty good event overall. That's all, folks! See you in the reactions post!

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I don't know if this will be as fun as RAW liveblogs

But I’ll watch it, and you, can count on it

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 2:40 PM EST reply actions  

how come bully ray isn’t posterized but the other 3 participants are for the main event???
and i don’t think that is tara on there with gail kim….weird…..

by egalenty on Feb 12, 2012 4:45 PM EST reply actions  

I got my snacks ready

Let’s see how long I can last watching this PPV

by TheMysticalNinja on Feb 12, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions  

Anyone here?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:03 PM EST reply actions  

Seems I’m alone here

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:08 PM EST reply actions  

im here

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:15 PM EST reply actions  

Man, I haven't seen Roode in a while

He is still sort of meh

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:16 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah. I don't like what im seeing

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Zack Ryder ripoff?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions  

What is this I don't even...

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:19 PM EST reply actions  

BOO BOO BOO

You suck it

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:20 PM EST reply actions  

Shannon Moore is still alive?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:21 PM EST reply actions  

No

He probably hangs out with jeff Hardy

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:23 PM EST up reply actions  

That RobbieE guy really thinks he looks like Guile

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions  

Haha

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:28 PM EST up reply actions  

And STILL the douche hair champion of the world

Robbie E

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:32 PM EST reply actions  

Not really boring

Just not special

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions  

I like women's wrestling

But I give exactly 0 fucks about the knockouts division

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:34 PM EST reply actions  

I know Gail Kim is good in ring.

Is Tara really bad?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Thay are good

I just don’t care for em

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You guys...

Are awesome and earn my Cagesiders of the Week award.

by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 12, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions  

Hairmares? They aren’t called headmares so that change oesnt work, stupid ass tenay

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:38 PM EST reply actions  

A female wrestler refusing to get surgery?

That would get you future endeavored in WWE

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:41 PM EST reply actions  

HA

Nice one

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:41 PM EST up reply actions  

WWE has spoiled me

Why aren’t either of these women farting? isn’t that what talented wrestlers do?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:42 PM EST reply actions  

Oh shit. She injured herself

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST reply actions  

That brace got fucked

Was that a legit injury, it looked like it

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions  

That's James Storm?

Shit he looks very different

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:46 PM EST reply actions  

I don’t know who’s Crimson or Magnus. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions  

You're in...

For some serious … you know what? I don’t want to spoil it for you.

by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions  

Why Does Matt Morgan remind me of Batista?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:52 PM EST reply actions  

This looks like Samoa Joe and 3 Lance Hoyts

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions  

That a good thing?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Kinda

I just can’t tell the difference between em

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Hahaha

The ref stopped counting when he saw Morgan

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 8:57 PM EST reply actions  

This match… wasn’t that bad

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions  

Hemme looks beatup

Bully Ray’s accent sucks as bad as Nic Cage’s in Con Air. But he is in good shape I’ll give him that

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions  

This should be a quality match

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

THE GREATEST MAN WHO'S EVER LIVED

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions  

WWE really missed the boat on Austin Aries

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:09 PM EST reply actions  

how so?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions  

Great performer

Good on the mic

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:14 PM EST up reply actions  

Really enjoying this match so far

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:20 PM EST reply actions  

2 good performers

Tna’s presentation is what is lacking here.

Fuck those announcers

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah they're awful.

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I liked that match

I hate the fans and the announcers though

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:25 PM EST reply actions  

Oh god a Jeff Hardy promo

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

I honestly don’t know how Jeff Hardy has so many fans.

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:27 PM EST reply actions  

Kazarian looks like and older Antonio Banderas

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah he really does

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM EST up reply actions  

I don’t know what’s going on here, but i am gonna guess demonic possession from Daniels

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:29 PM EST reply actions  

Its Sad

No one cares about TNA. The product is amazing. Even the knockouts match was better than 99% of the stuff I see on Raw

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:36 PM EST reply actions  

No

TNA has been horrible for a while now. Even worse than RAW

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions  

I disagree, the only problem I have with TNA is its occasional bust PPV where every match ends in a DQ and no titles ever change hands. The recent events of Ring Ka King and the UK tour will make TNA ratings go up dramatically

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Keep in mind

This is the first post-Russo PPV. Which might bring some changes but will not necessarily bring in the numbers

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

Why is that ring so loud?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST reply actions  

Because their fans are annoying

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No I mean the actual ring.

you can hear every little step. Is it micd’ up?

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by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Must be mic’d up so you can notice the 350 fans in attendance

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Awesome so far IMO. Tuned in just before the TV Title match and all matches have been good so far

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Started sucky with a legit KO

It has gotten better

Aries-Shelley was very good

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Thought the tag match was really good as well. And as much as I hate any form of women’s wrestling I thought Gail Kim and Tara were pulling off moves most midcard wrestlers couldn’t do in the WWE (top rope hurracanrana)

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions  

I've been reading nothing but bad things about bschoff's son

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:53 PM EST reply actions  

Administrative circlejerk match

Why is this so high on the card?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions  

Put over Bischoff. I bet he comes out of nowhere and tears it up

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions  

How far has wrestling come?

I remember sitting in the BLEEDERS at a Nitro in 1999 in Toronto at the ACC (sold out show), Raw now only gets the bottom half of stadiums (went to one a few months back, didn’t realize it by watching on tv) and a TNA ppv only has this many people?

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions  

Times change

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I think its moreso the WWE knowing they have no competition so the product is a joke (heels vs face 6 man tag EVERY Raw) and absolutely terrible advertising for TNA

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions  

It's probably the dwindling interest in prowrestling itself

It’s on a down time now. Like Lance Storm said, it’ll get big again sooner or later.

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I don't know...

Don’t want to be negative nancy but I think we’ve seen the peak of wrestling…Raw’s do 2.9’s with no competition…back when WCW and WWF would each do 4.5+’s…We’ll see, hope it’s not true

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Many kids have lost interest due to the rise of MMA.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Thats

how many people Impact ZONE holds. Last Impact in UK, over 8k people. TNA has to put Impact on the road. One thing really killing them

by LilNaitch on Feb 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Agreed. Or even just for PPV’s go to a small arena. I can understand impact tapings there but the names for a TNA PPV can draw a crowd anywhere

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm still giggling at the idea of being "trained by Hogan"

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST reply actions  

Hogan is so beat up he’d probably lose to Scott Hall

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Theres like 100 ppl there, how loud can it be?

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed...

They gotta stop doing this lame ass Impact Zone stuff…crowd is really an underrated aspect. When they were in UK the crowd was hot as hell the entire time…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ve been saying the same thing for a while now. Why not put this PPV at a decent sized arena and promote the crap out of it in the area? The impact zone is terrible and I’m sure the people of Orlando can only go to so many of these shows

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Yep

It’s a risk trying to fill an arena, but they need to try at least for the PPV’s. Otherwise the upside is so limited having these at the Impact Zone

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions  

Can they afford to travel that much?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

They just went to the UK so yes most likely

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Whats the worst that can happen? They lose some money by giving tickets away? I’d bet 2/3 people who would know nothing about wrestling before attending that show would really enjoy it

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea you're right...

Makes no sense that they wouldn’t try. Maybe travel really is the issue lol. That’d be sad, but again, you’d think the $ they could make from a bigger arena would offset that. People would go to this shit if it was a PPV and the card was reasonably decent

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I think they must have a problem traveling with their stage setup, nothing else makes sense to me.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy is just not ready for this

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST reply actions  

If this was the WWE Gunner would hit like 5 more neckbreakers than pin him. See Royal Rumble Punk vs. Ziggler

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Damn, Jeff Hardy was on top of the world in 2009 & 2010.

Even then I thought he was slacking and wasn’t performing to his full potential. But now he’s become old news. sad

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions  

old news?

He’s over more than anyone in TNA..and who knows, maybe he’s clean :P

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Tna has to town down the makeup. Him and Sting look like Halloween

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

Even the face-paint is worse lol

Ancillary detail to me though

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Take that back

The Jack Sparrow eyes on eyelids thing looked cool as hell. I thought it was a mask

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Had that the last PPV too...

IT’s creepy..

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Yea he's over in TNA

But that’s like saying I just got hired by Burger King,

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

Well

Why you hanging out at Burger King all night then :P ?

You’re free to leave…

Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

hear that scream?

Girls want Hardy still…you’re just jealous

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saying...

you trash it but you’re the one who’s here watching and commenting lol…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly welcome to wrestling world kid or are you not used to it by now?

Just because I don’t like the company doesn’t mean I wouldn’t watch a match. Or is this the first time you’ve heard someone say something bad about TNA?

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Well right...

So many people trash it then still watch it, most things I don’t like in life I don’t spend time doing lol…

And enough kid references, I’m almost 30 and have my own kid :) Unless you’re like 50+ I’ll accept you calling me kid then

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Anyone who uses “kid” in a derogatory manner is 17. Tops.

by The so-called Beautiful on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Really?

He kinda looks thinner more than anything

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions  

Used to be a butterball

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions  

Just saw Gunner/GB match at house show… GB can only arm drag & backdrop lol. Was terrible

by LilNaitch on Feb 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

hey cut him some slack. He sells neckbreakers like a champ

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've mostly liked this PPV so far

But Mike Tenay has always bothered me

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Yep.

He’s no Schiavone that’s for damn sure.

The PPV has been decent though. Didn’t like the Bischoff match though, maybe if that was like the second or third match…that’s not the match you put before the main event…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions  

"Shut up skank"

Hahahahahaahha

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST reply actions  

Although I disagree I like that TNA credits this and puts Gold on him. ZIggler is the best wrester in the WWE bar none

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Big drop-off after Ziggler and CM in WWE

Jericho comes off the street and is the top heel…pathetic.

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Really

Daniel Bryan does nothing for you?

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

He's decent...

Not world title material though…and the cheesy yelling post-match is a terrible gimmick.

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

Too small. How can you genuinely make a guy seem like the world HEAVYWEIGHT champion when he’d get beat up by Beth Phoenix

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

If it's by size alone

Mason Ryan and Jack Swagger should be main eventers

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

if they introduced Mason Ryan like they did with Goldberg he could carry the entire WWE like Batista did

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly

You need to look like you could legit whoop someone’s ass at a bar…or be an elite athlete / personality like Michaels…Bryan is neither. Good wrestler but if this was 1995-1998 WCW he’d be relegated to like WCW Saturday Night lol…

Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions  

Don't jump ship there buddy, Brian would submit Phoenix nine times over in a fist fight

and hurt her legitimately. Size doesn’t mean anything, but Having a 180lb man carry your World HEAVYWEIGHT Title is weird, like Mysterio.

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

It's beyond the size...

Not an elite athlete, personality, pushes the ratings line, sells merch, etc…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, skills in the ring don't matter at all

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed. See Cena, John.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

The guy that had a 5 star match with CM Punk at money in the bank?

Yeah, fuck that guy

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I’d take DB and Punk on Raw over that match. Hell Nash and HHH put on a show at Money in the Bank. The point is that if the WWE wants their wrestlers to seem legitimate, fans need to think they’re indestructible. Daniel Bryan could get beat up by half of the people that go to public gyms

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

not correct, technique trumps size anyday man

Daniel Bryan has more technique than all 50 of the people attending local gyms right outside our houses. He trains in Kickboxing, bjj and submission wrestling and has for about 6 years

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions  

But it's about selling that physique / ability to the crowd

Syxx also had martial arts ability, etc, but he wasn’t 200 lbs…just the way it is, gotta look the part too.

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Agree completely with this ^ there’s always a place for guys that are smaller with tons of talent. Guys like Mysterio will be in the hall of fame because of it. But there’s always a problem when crossing over. It wouldn’t be realistic to think of a guy as small as DB beating up the Big Show in real life, so that is why our imagination can’t go there with wrestling. However, it is possible for a mid sized guy like Punk(6’2-215), Ziggler(6’1-220), or obviously a guy like Cena to overpower a guy like Show. DB is just TOO small to make it even plausible.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Strength is always a factor in wrestling and always will be. Bryan can’t even suplex some guys. He could headline PPV’s in fights against CR for the intercontinental title the same way Shawn Michaels used to though

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Cena + 5 star match...

Oxymoron.

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions  

I know what you’re saying but I only hate on Bryan because they gave him the title. If they used him properly as an intercontinental contender I’d love him. What merch would you buy though? “I EAT NUTS AND SALAD” shirt?

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions  

Alot of guys have great personalities, it's just the way they are perceived.

Not much charisma can come out of a nerd right? Isn’t that his gimmick. He hasn’t pushed his merchandise really since he said “GO BUY MY T-SHIRT” but Bryan is a phenomenal talent and will be around for years to come, he’ll only get better on top

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

No she’d strength her way out of it and Glam Slam him from the top ropes. Him and Kelly Kelly should have a bench press competition though. She eats meat so I’ll give her the advantage

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions  

You just hate him because he's a vegan

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Cody Rhodes and Daniel Bryan should be lighting up the intercontinental division, but the WWE is as random as Family Guy

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

WWE is terrible with the belts

Belts don’t mean shit there…guys wins the IC title and then job right after in a non-title matchup…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions  

And then win it again…… Swagger

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions  

Jumping in to say...

I wish wrestling, and WWE especially, could promote their titles like the UFC does; use clear(er) weight divisions and push each belt like it’s as important as all the others. The UFC heavyweight title will likely have more pull given that the public has long perceived heavyweights in boxing as being more important, but at least the UFC tries to push their other belts as being on a mostly equal level.

In wrestling, for whatever reason, you need to stay below a weight limit to win a cruiserweight title, but a heavyweight title is essentially an open-weight title. I think that hurts credibility when smaller guys go for it.

by Dedywre on Feb 12, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

CRAP

There goes my stream. Anyone want to let me know how it goes??

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

scratch that. Thankyou google.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Crazy ass suplex..

clusterfuck of a plex

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions  

Did James Storm just do a code breaker?

"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"

by BattleMoses on Feb 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions  

It’s weird seeing Bully Ray doing some of his moves since he isn’t as big as he used to be

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

It’s funny that hes 272 yet he lost a ton of weight.

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

Bobby ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

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by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Hey, that was pretty good

People will scream about the cheap finish but I thought it was clever. Roode did a good job acting…

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions  

Storm and Ray were out too long though...

Where were they that whole time?

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www.lordyuanshu.com

by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions  

Sting tries to be legitimate by counting the pin after he smokes Hardy in the head with the belt? Makes no sense but a good PPV

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions  

I have decided that I don't like Fatal Fourways.

No, I do not. I don’t like Triple Threats either, but I have at least seen a couple of really good ones in my life (Douglas/Funk/Sabu, Rock/Angle/Undertaker). Those can work.

Fatal Fourways are always a mess. I can’t think of one that I would rate above “passable.”

by Razztopia on Feb 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST reply actions  

I can name 3 great Fatal Four Ways

Orlando Jordan(Ignore him) VS Chris Benoit VS Christian VS Booker T
Edge VS Benoit VS Angle VS Guerrero
Guerrero VS Taker VS Booker T VS JBL

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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I only remember the last one of those matches.

I think it suffered from what I think lots of Triple Threats and Fatal Fourways suffer from (and so did this match tonight): too much dead space for wrestlers who get hurt and sell it for like five minutes so that two wrestlers can have a sequence. I actually think that tonight’s TNA match was better about that sort of thing, but it sort of killed the end sequence because Ray and Storm were dead forever and it really bothered me.

But I’ll check out the top two matches and see what I think.

by Razztopia on Feb 12, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Orlando Jordan

Would be a great Diva. That is all

by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 11:06 PM EST reply actions  

I want to...

Thank all you guys for watching along with CSS and commenting.

Last time we did a TNA live play by play, there were 8 comments in the thread. Tonight, nearly 200.

Thanks for being a part of the site and helping us grow. We truly do appreciate it.

by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 13, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions  

Yeah

we gotta a screwy finish, but least this one had some imagination to it lol. Plus, no title changes again. Maybe theyre f finally trying to give their titles some credibility again. So far so good for the overhaul n creative. Now, if we cld just get em outta the Impact Zone!

by LilNaitch on Feb 13, 2012 4:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Tag team belts changed hands, right?

I didn’t watch but that’s what I saw on that recap thread.

by The Name is Dalton on Feb 13, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions  

Yep.

Crimson accidentally hit Morgan, Morgan gets the snap-mare and elbow. Joe and Magnus get the titles.

It’d be the only organization where belts mean something. WWE has done their best to mutilate the credibility of their titles.

Totally agree about Impact Zone. That’s the next step, at least for the PPVs. Take the risk and get a big arena, so the crowd can actually get hot (see the England shows, which made TNA seem big league).

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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions  

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