TNA Against All Odds results and live match coverage TONIGHT (Feb. 12)
TNA returns to the United States as Against All Odds is all set to pop off tonight (Sun., Feb. 12, 2012) from the Impact Zone in Orlando, FL at 8 p.m. ET, live on pay-per-view (PPV).
CagesideSeats.com will provide LIVE blow-by-blow, match-by-match coverage of the event below, beginning with the first match of the evening and right on through to the main event.
Although it's only two days from Valentine's Day, there will be no love lost inside the Impact Zone tonight. Former friends collide when A.J. Styles takes on Kazarian and chip off the ol' block Garrett Bischoff takes on Gunner. Gail Kim looks to defend her Knockouts title against Tara while Crimson and Matt Morgan hope to retain their tag straps against the team of Samoa Joe and Magnus. Austin Aries and Alex Shelley vie for the X-Division title but will also keep an eye on the Jesse Sorensen and Zema Ion match-up which will decide the next contender. And in the main event, Bobby Roode's TNA World Heavyweight Championship is on the line with Bully Ray, James Storm and Jeff Hardy all looking to become the Orlando promotion's top dog.
Kick your shoes off, relax, and enjoy all the action with your favorite pro wrestling website. And remember to keep refreshing!
Full results and match coverage after the jump.
TNA AGAINST ALL ODDS RESULTS AND LIVE BLOG
Zema Ion def. Jesse Sorensen for number one contendership for the TNA X Division ChampionshipRobbie E (c) def. Shannon Moore after Moore answered Robbie E's open TV title match challengeSamoa Joe and Magnus def. Matt Morgan and Crimson to win the TNA World Tag Team Championship
Kazarian def. A.J. Styles
Austin Aries (c) def. Alex Shelley for the TNA X Division Championship
Gail Kim (c) def. Tara for the TNA Knockout Championship
Gunner def. Garett Bischoff
Bobby Roode (c) def. Bully Ray vs. James Storm vs. Jeff Hardy for the TNA World Heavyweight Championship
Sergio here, let's get things kicked off!
Zema Ion vs. Jesse Sorensen
Fast action to start. Sorensen flipping Ion up and over all over the place. Hurricanrana and Sorensen is in full control. Missile dropkick from Ion puts him in the driver's seat. Action spills to the outside.
Ion with a moonsault from the apron off the second turnbuckle and it looks like Sorensen takes it pretty badly. Sure enough, the match is called. Ion plays it off perfectly in accordance to his cocky, arrogant gimmick so at least something is salvaged from this.
This suck, the match was looking good so far.
Winner: Ion via countout
They do a replay of the moonsault and it looks like Sorensen was knocked out immediately after taking the hit. Injury seems completely legit as Mike Tenay and Jeremy Borash are killing time.
We go backstage where TNA World Heavyweight Champion Bobby Roode is cutting a promo. He dresses down each and every one on his challengers tonight. Says that Jeff Hardy and James Storm each had multiple chances to uncrown him but failed. As for Bully Ray, he can only assume it's greed that motivates the former Dudley. Roode says he can understand that but promises he still retain the belt.
Television Champion Robbie E comes out. Earlier in the day, he issued an open challenge for his strap. Let's see who responds...
It's Shannon Moore! He kinda looks like Lady Gaga's brother.
Television title match: Robbie E (c) vs. Shannon Moore
Lock up to start and Moore hits some early armdrags before a dropkick sends the champ to the outside. The champ makes his way to Robbie T and they both high tail up the ramp. Moore gives chase and attacks the champ. He puts Robbie E back into the ring but the champ ends up regaining contol.
Irish whip counter, armdrag, atomic drop combination from Moore puts him back in control. Second irish whip reversal gets Moore caught and dumped onto the apron where a running knee sends him back first into the guard rail. The champ firmly in control now with some boots and a big back elbow.
High flying move from the champ gets a two count as the crowd starts to get behind Moore. He uses the crowd's energy to land a big kick and both wrestlers are now on the mat. They're up and Moore is a house on fire! Punches, forearms, THEY'RE ALL LANDING.
Robbie E is scooped up and BOOM! GOES THE DYNAMITE. The champ rolls to the outside but Moore hits a baseball slide to his opponent's back before nailing him with an Asai moonsault! YOU STILL GOT IT (clap clap clapclapclap)!
Some near falls for Moore and Robbie T tries to interfere but no dice. Moore up top BUT MISSES! Robbie E hits a huge clotheslines and then tries his own top rope maneuver. But you're taking too long, Robbie! YOU'RE TAKING TOO DAMN LONG! Moore drops him off his nards and splats him back onto the mat for two.
They go back and forth, Moore rolls him up but Robbie E forces him off and towards the ropes where Robbie T clocks Moore something fierce allowing the champ to n
ail Moore with a jumping DDT for the three count.
Winner and STILL champion: Robbie E via pinfall
Knockouts title match: Gail Kim (c) vs. Tara
Does Tara still do the Widowmaker? That move is freakin' awesome. Probably the only good thing Shane Helms is known for. Unless you think getting messed up on booze and nearly killing your girlfriend is good. In which case, he's got two things.
Tara taking the fight immediately to the champion. Grabbing her by the hair and straight up gangstering her ass. Kim is the champ for a reason though and ends up getting the upper hand. At one point, though, Madison Rayne -- and one half of the Knockouts tag champ along with Kim -- deuces out and Kim is all whatever. I guess they're fighting now. Is it just me or is Madison foxy?
Hurricanrana from Kim and she's gloating but Tara hits a powerslam out of nowhere. Both on the mat as we get the count from the ref. Kim to her feet first but Tara slugs back and goes nutso on her. Swinging sidewalk slam for two from the challenger.
Both women on the top rope and Tara back body drops Kim onto the mat. Moonsault! BUT SHE HURT HER KNEE! Not really, though. But Tara's wearing a brace on it and sells it well. She crawls to the pin but only gets two. She tries to put the champ down for the count but Kim reverses and plants Tara into the mat for three.
Winner and STILL champion: Kim via pinfall
James Storm backstage with Christy Hemme giving a really awesome promo. I've always been a huge fan of his since the America's Most Wanted days.
World Tag Team title match: Matt Morgan and Crimson (c) vs. Samoa Joe and Magnus
Joe and Morgan start us off. They're doing the bouncing off the ropes and trying to knock each other over thing. Joe with a boot to the gut but Morgan knocks him on his butt. Joe, seriously, man, lose some weight. I can't blame him, though. If I hated my job as much as he probably does, I'd probably try to eat myself to death too.
Magnus and Crimson tagged in now. The champs in control until Joe grabs Crimson from the outside and drops him neck first onto the top rope. Joe's tagged in and begins to take it to the redheaded tag champ. A few minutes of Magnus beating up Crimson and then Joe is tagged in. Crimson tries to fight back but Joe powerslams the hell out of him for two.
Finally, Crimson gets to a boot to Joe in the corner and then a nifty second rope clothesline which puts the challenger on his back. AND THE TAG TO MORGAN! HE'S CLEANING HOUSE!
Okay, this finish is actually pretty awesome. Joe sets up Morgan for the snapmare/elbow drop but Morgan pushes him off and he racks Magnus on the top rope. Joe staggers back and Crimson charges for a spear but Joe sidesteps and Crimson nails his partner!
Joe tosses Crimson to the outside and then BAM! Snapmare on Morgan, elbow drop from Magnus and NEW champs!!
Winner and NEW champions: Samoa Joe and Magnus via pinfall
Backstage with Christy Hemme and Bully Ray. Holy hell, Ray is going off on Hemme. "No matter how much makeup you wear, no matter how you dress ... gimme the mic and go away, febble woman."
Best damn rulebreaker in the business, folks.
X-Division title match: Austin Aries (c) vs. Alex Shelley
Aries being a cocky jerk until Shelley finally starts taking it to him. Aries on the outside, Shelley jumps onto him from the inside turnbuckle, diving to the outside. Back inside the ring and Aries momentarily takes control until he springboards over the top rope for a senton but gets a back full of knee. A kick off the top rope from the challenger spills Aries to the outside and Shelley is ready to dive but the champ crawls underneath the ring! He pops up on the other side and nails Shelley from behind.
Shelley on the outside and Aries hits his awesome suicide dive before rolling the challenger back in, hitting the over the top rope senton and then taking control.
The challenger reverses a high impact move from Aries and nails the champ on the turnbuckle before hitting a running knee. Aries to the outside and once again under the ring but Shelley is like that robot Shiva from Marvel Comics. No one will get that reference. He catches Aries as the champ sneaks up and tosses him to the outside. SUICIDE DIVE!
Back inside the ring and Shelley misses a top rope double stomp but retains control and drops the champ on his head for a 2.99999 count. They go back and forth, Aries hits Shelley with a discus elbow and both men are on the mat and hurting.
Aries goes for a jumping clothesline in the corner but Shelley boots him in the face! Sliced Bread attempt blocked and both men are on the apron. A second Sliced Bread attempt is countered when the champ shoves Shelley into the ringpost and then nails the challenger with a DEATH VALLEY DRIVER ONTO THE APRON! Holy cow!
Double axe-handle from the champ, roll into the ring for two count. Aries up top and misses a splash! He rolls out of it but gets nailed with a Sliced Bread! One, two ... ARIES GRABS THE ROPE!
Aries gets the upper hand, DROPKICK IN THE CORNER, BRAINBUSTER~! AND ONE TWO .... KICKOUT!!!
This match is great.
Another brainbuster attempt is reversed into a small package. Boot to the head from Shelley ... TWO COUNT!
FREAKING AYE! Aries counters another Sliced Bread, brutalized Shelley with knees, hits a brainbuster and sinks in the Last Chancery submission for the tapout win!
Winner and STILL champion: Aries via submission
Great match.
Jeff Hardy backstage with Hemme complete the main event promo package.
A.J. Styles vs. Kazarian
A crying infant kept me from watching the opening minutes of this match. Sorry, Cagesiders but my daughter trumps TNA. CHIKARA on the other hand...
Alright, so Kazarian has got Styles in a submission but the Gator Wrestler is able to power out and they trade forearms. Two clothes from Styles, back brain kick and we've got a match on our hands! Suplex into a backbreaker, awesome!
Facebuster for two! Styles Clash is blocked but the TNA Triple Crown champ retains control. Another Styles Clash is blocked but this time Kazarian gets the upper hand. Styles on the apron and Kazarian leaps over the top rope and slams his opponent's head onto the mat.
Back inside the ring and both men are on the top turnbuckle. Styles is able to knock Kazarian off and flips into a reverse DDT for two. Chris Daniels is cheering Kazarian on but Styles is giving him the boots. Suplex from Styles is counter and Kazarian slams Styles into the mat.
They're trading pin attempts and Styles nails his opponents with the GATOR KICK! Styles on the apron, springboard ... TO THE OUTSIDE ONTO DANIELS! THAT WAS AWESOME! Styles then tries to springboard into the ring but is caught by Kazarian and nailed with a Fade to Black for three.
Winner: Kazarian via pinfall
Daniel is all yuks despite the bruised noggin but Kazarian is none too pleased.
Gunner and Eric Bischoff backstage with Hemme. Ugh, this match is coming up next...
Gunner vs. Garrett Bischoff
Garrett's tattoos are a perfect analogy for Hogan's and Eric Bischoff's role in TNA: lame, kind of nonsensical and overall unappealing.
They're slugging it out presumably because Garrett doesn't know how to actually wrestle. Daddy Bischoff grabs onto his son's ankle which puts Gunner in control. Garrett fights back.
Seriously, if anyone that was in the Impact Zone is reading this: don't cheer this crap. Just stay dead silent and hell, just boo the entire time. This has no place on any kind of wrestling show. This is nepotism at its worst and is an insult to anyone who considers themselves a fan of TNA which is touted as an "alternative."
Gunner working over Bischoff's neck, whatever.
Daddy Bischoff interferes again and Hogan decks his ex-best friend. The crowd chants for Hogan. Screw it, the mutants in the Impact Zone deserve this.
Baby Bischoff was hurting or something and Hogan was going to throw in the towel but Garrett said no and ended up getting DDT'd for the pin.
Screw you for this, TNA.
Winner: Gunner (loser: everyone who watched this)
Sting backstage with Hemme. Video package for the main event. This match better be awesome to make up for the crap we just sat through.
World Heavyweight title match: Bobby Roode (c) vs. Jeff Hardy vs. Bully Ray vs. James Storm
They're milking the entrances.
Everyone in the ring and Bull Ray heads to the outside while Hardy and Storm double team the champ. Ray finally gets inside and takes out both Hardy and Storm. Roode is all like, cool brotha but Ray is all yeah right and lays him out with a Ray Bottom (trademark Cageside Seats).
Storm back up and nearly gets a pin on Roode after a lungblower. Beer Money sees a momentary reunion when Storm and Roode double suplex Ray but Roode attacks Storm afterwards. Hardy back in the picture and takes out Roode but Ray lays him out.
HUGE suplex from the corner and everyone but Ray is out. He can't get a pin on anyone. Hardy up and hits Ray with a Twist of Fate from a Bully Bomb counter. Referee bump after Ray blocks a spear from Roode and Hardy has Ray pinned but no one is there to count! Hardy up and speared by the champ! Storm up and attacks Roode! LAST CALL SUPERKICK!
ONE TWO ... BULL RAY PULLS HEBNER OUT!
Storm jumps to the outside but Ray moves out of the way and Storm nails Hebner. Back inside the ring, Hardy dodges Ray who gets spinebustered by the champ. Hardy cracks Roode and then goes for the Swanton but Roode moves out of the way.
The champ goes to the outside and grabs the belt, wanting to use it against Hardy but Sting stops him and grabs the strap. He and Roode jaw back and forth and Roode spits in Sting's face! Sting launches the belt and HITS HARDY ON ACCIDENT!
Roode is laughing! He covers Hardy and makes special enforcer Sting to make the three count!
Winner and STILL champion: Roode via pinfall
Roode laying it on thick with Sting, really making the Stinger feel like crap. Okay, TNA, you screwed the pooch with the Gunner/Bischoff match but this main event made up for it.
Pretty good event overall. That's all, folks! See you in the reactions post!
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I don't know if this will be as fun as RAW liveblogs
But I’ll watch it, and you, can count on it
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I got my snacks ready
Let’s see how long I can last watching this PPV
by TheMysticalNinja on Feb 12, 2012 6:08 PM EST reply actions
This'll be the first TNA show I've watched in 2 years and my first TNA PPV
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
Man, I haven't seen Roode in a while
He is still sort of meh
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Does Shannon Moore know he looks like a total ass?
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
That RobbieE guy really thinks he looks like Guile
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
And STILL the douche hair champion of the world
Robbie E
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Am I the only one who thought that match was borng?
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
I like women's wrestling
But I give exactly 0 fucks about the knockouts division
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
I know Gail Kim is good in ring.
Is Tara really bad?
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
Thay are good
I just don’t care for em
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You guys...
Are awesome and earn my Cagesiders of the Week award.
by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 12, 2012 8:36 PM EST reply actions
A female wrestler refusing to get surgery?
That would get you future endeavored in WWE
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WWE has spoiled me
Why aren’t either of these women farting? isn’t that what talented wrestlers do?
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That brace got fucked
Was that a legit injury, it looked like it
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Yeah I think so. It looked like she missed the moonsault and injured her knee.
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
That's James Storm?
Shit he looks very different
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I don’t know who’s Crimson or Magnus. I hope I’m pleasantly surprised
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You're in...
For some serious … you know what? I don’t want to spoil it for you.
by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 12, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions
I know Samoa Joe is good. Don't know nothing about the other 3
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
Yeah TNA your stock casino montage music is getting me pumped for some pro wrestling
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This looks like Samoa Joe and 3 Lance Hoyts
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Hahaha
The ref stopped counting when he saw Morgan
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Hemme looks beatup
Bully Ray’s accent sucks as bad as Nic Cage’s in Con Air. But he is in good shape I’ll give him that
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WWE really missed the boat on Austin Aries
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2 good performers
Tna’s presentation is what is lacking here.
Fuck those announcers
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I liked that match
I hate the fans and the announcers though
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Kazarian looks like and older Antonio Banderas
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Its Sad
No one cares about TNA. The product is amazing. Even the knockouts match was better than 99% of the stuff I see on Raw
No
TNA has been horrible for a while now. Even worse than RAW
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I disagree, the only problem I have with TNA is its occasional bust PPV where every match ends in a DQ and no titles ever change hands. The recent events of Ring Ka King and the UK tour will make TNA ratings go up dramatically
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
Keep in mind
This is the first post-Russo PPV. Which might bring some changes but will not necessarily bring in the numbers
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No I mean the actual ring.
you can hear every little step. Is it micd’ up?
"When Life gives you Lemons give the lemons BACK!"
Must be mic’d up so you can notice the 350 fans in attendance
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
Awesome so far IMO. Tuned in just before the TV Title match and all matches have been good so far
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Started sucky with a legit KO
It has gotten better
Aries-Shelley was very good
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
Thought the tag match was really good as well. And as much as I hate any form of women’s wrestling I thought Gail Kim and Tara were pulling off moves most midcard wrestlers couldn’t do in the WWE (top rope hurracanrana)
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
Aries and Shelley are guaranteed good workers, so that was as to be expected
Robbie E is catching on to me slightly
Lance Storm Version 2.0
I've been reading nothing but bad things about bschoff's son
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Administrative circlejerk match
Why is this so high on the card?
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Put over Bischoff. I bet he comes out of nowhere and tears it up
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
Gunnar isn't bad, just isn't appealing. Bischoff's son is self explanatory
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
How far has wrestling come?
I remember sitting in the BLEEDERS at a Nitro in 1999 in Toronto at the ACC (sold out show), Raw now only gets the bottom half of stadiums (went to one a few months back, didn’t realize it by watching on tv) and a TNA ppv only has this many people?
Wrestling will return to it's glory days. sooner or later
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think its moreso the WWE knowing they have no competition so the product is a joke (heels vs face 6 man tag EVERY Raw) and absolutely terrible advertising for TNA
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
It's probably the dwindling interest in prowrestling itself
It’s on a down time now. Like Lance Storm said, it’ll get big again sooner or later.
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I don't know...
Don’t want to be negative nancy but I think we’ve seen the peak of wrestling…Raw’s do 2.9’s with no competition…back when WCW and WWF would each do 4.5+’s…We’ll see, hope it’s not true
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Many kids have lost interest due to the rise of MMA.
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thats
how many people Impact ZONE holds. Last Impact in UK, over 8k people. TNA has to put Impact on the road. One thing really killing them
by LilNaitch on Feb 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Agreed. Or even just for PPV’s go to a small arena. I can understand impact tapings there but the names for a TNA PPV can draw a crowd anywhere
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
I'm still giggling at the idea of being "trained by Hogan"
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Hogan is so beat up he’d probably lose to Scott Hall
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Is the TNA Crowd really this disinterested, I mean no one's popping for shit
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Theres like 100 ppl there, how loud can it be?
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST up reply actions
78 people in the FCW arena get louder than this some it's not about capacity.
Me and you are louder then the damn crowd
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Agreed...
They gotta stop doing this lame ass Impact Zone stuff…crowd is really an underrated aspect. When they were in UK the crowd was hot as hell the entire time…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve been saying the same thing for a while now. Why not put this PPV at a decent sized arena and promote the crap out of it in the area? The impact zone is terrible and I’m sure the people of Orlando can only go to so many of these shows
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yep
It’s a risk trying to fill an arena, but they need to try at least for the PPV’s. Otherwise the upside is so limited having these at the Impact Zone
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Can they afford to travel that much?
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They just went to the UK so yes most likely
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Whats the worst that can happen? They lose some money by giving tickets away? I’d bet 2/3 people who would know nothing about wrestling before attending that show would really enjoy it
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
Yea you're right...
Makes no sense that they wouldn’t try. Maybe travel really is the issue lol. That’d be sad, but again, you’d think the $ they could make from a bigger arena would offset that. People would go to this shit if it was a PPV and the card was reasonably decent
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think they must have a problem traveling with their stage setup, nothing else makes sense to me.
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
If this was the WWE Gunner would hit like 5 more neckbreakers than pin him. See Royal Rumble Punk vs. Ziggler
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, Jeff Hardy was on top of the world in 2009 & 2010.
Even then I thought he was slacking and wasn’t performing to his full potential. But now he’s become old news. sad
Lance Storm Version 2.0
old news?
He’s over more than anyone in TNA..and who knows, maybe he’s clean :P
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
Tna has to town down the makeup. Him and Sting look like Halloween
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Even the face-paint is worse lol
Ancillary detail to me though
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Take that back
The Jack Sparrow eyes on eyelids thing looked cool as hell. I thought it was a mask
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
Had that the last PPV too...
IT’s creepy..
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Yea he's over in TNA
But that’s like saying I just got hired by Burger King,
Lance Storm Version 2.0
by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
Well
Why you hanging out at Burger King all night then :P ?
You’re free to leave…
Conewalker
www.lordyuanshu.com
by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
hear that scream?
Girls want Hardy still…you’re just jealous
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
Get over yourself kid, anyone can watch anything. You're just looking into things way to much chill out bro.
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Just saying...
you trash it but you’re the one who’s here watching and commenting lol…
Conewalker
www.lordyuanshu.com
by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly welcome to wrestling world kid or are you not used to it by now?
Just because I don’t like the company doesn’t mean I wouldn’t watch a match. Or is this the first time you’ve heard someone say something bad about TNA?
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions
Well right...
So many people trash it then still watch it, most things I don’t like in life I don’t spend time doing lol…
And enough kid references, I’m almost 30 and have my own kid :) Unless you’re like 50+ I’ll accept you calling me kid then
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Anyone who uses “kid” in a derogatory manner is 17. Tops.
by The so-called Beautiful on Feb 12, 2012 11:44 PM EST up reply actions
One of my biggest regrets as a wrestling fan is that I've never gotten to see Sting live
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Really?
He kinda looks thinner more than anything
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Just saw Gunner/GB match at house show… GB can only arm drag & backdrop lol. Was terrible
by LilNaitch on Feb 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST via mobile reply actions
hey cut him some slack. He sells neckbreakers like a champ
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
I've mostly liked this PPV so far
But Mike Tenay has always bothered me
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Yep.
He’s no Schiavone that’s for damn sure.
The PPV has been decent though. Didn’t like the Bischoff match though, maybe if that was like the second or third match…that’s not the match you put before the main event…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
death in the family
borash doing it for him now..
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
They said he was dealing with a family issue
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Although I disagree I like that TNA credits this and puts Gold on him. ZIggler is the best wrester in the WWE bar none
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions
Big drop-off after Ziggler and CM in WWE
Jericho comes off the street and is the top heel…pathetic.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
Really
Daniel Bryan does nothing for you?
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
He's decent...
Not world title material though…and the cheesy yelling post-match is a terrible gimmick.
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Too small. How can you genuinely make a guy seem like the world HEAVYWEIGHT champion when he’d get beat up by Beth Phoenix
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
If it's by size alone
Mason Ryan and Jack Swagger should be main eventers
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
if they introduced Mason Ryan like they did with Goldberg he could carry the entire WWE like Batista did
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Exactly
You need to look like you could legit whoop someone’s ass at a bar…or be an elite athlete / personality like Michaels…Bryan is neither. Good wrestler but if this was 1995-1998 WCW he’d be relegated to like WCW Saturday Night lol…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
Don't jump ship there buddy, Brian would submit Phoenix nine times over in a fist fight
and hurt her legitimately. Size doesn’t mean anything, but Having a 180lb man carry your World HEAVYWEIGHT Title is weird, like Mysterio.
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
It's beyond the size...
Not an elite athlete, personality, pushes the ratings line, sells merch, etc…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:41 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, skills in the ring don't matter at all
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
The guy that had a 5 star match with CM Punk at money in the bank?
Yeah, fuck that guy
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
by IRodC on Feb 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I’d take DB and Punk on Raw over that match. Hell Nash and HHH put on a show at Money in the Bank. The point is that if the WWE wants their wrestlers to seem legitimate, fans need to think they’re indestructible. Daniel Bryan could get beat up by half of the people that go to public gyms
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
not correct, technique trumps size anyday man
Daniel Bryan has more technique than all 50 of the people attending local gyms right outside our houses. He trains in Kickboxing, bjj and submission wrestling and has for about 6 years
Lance Storm Version 2.0
by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
But it's about selling that physique / ability to the crowd
Syxx also had martial arts ability, etc, but he wasn’t 200 lbs…just the way it is, gotta look the part too.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I can respect that, since Benoit was the nicest guy on the planet
But looked like a Rabid Wolverine
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Agree completely with this ^ there’s always a place for guys that are smaller with tons of talent. Guys like Mysterio will be in the hall of fame because of it. But there’s always a problem when crossing over. It wouldn’t be realistic to think of a guy as small as DB beating up the Big Show in real life, so that is why our imagination can’t go there with wrestling. However, it is possible for a mid sized guy like Punk(6’2-215), Ziggler(6’1-220), or obviously a guy like Cena to overpower a guy like Show. DB is just TOO small to make it even plausible.
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 11:02 PM EST up reply actions
Strength is always a factor in wrestling and always will be. Bryan can’t even suplex some guys. He could headline PPV’s in fights against CR for the intercontinental title the same way Shawn Michaels used to though
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Cena + 5 star match...
Oxymoron.
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:51 PM EST up reply actions
I know what you’re saying but I only hate on Bryan because they gave him the title. If they used him properly as an intercontinental contender I’d love him. What merch would you buy though? “I EAT NUTS AND SALAD” shirt?
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
Alot of guys have great personalities, it's just the way they are perceived.
Not much charisma can come out of a nerd right? Isn’t that his gimmick. He hasn’t pushed his merchandise really since he said “GO BUY MY T-SHIRT” but Bryan is a phenomenal talent and will be around for years to come, he’ll only get better on top
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
No she’d strength her way out of it and Glam Slam him from the top ropes. Him and Kelly Kelly should have a bench press competition though. She eats meat so I’ll give her the advantage
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
You just hate him because he's a vegan
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
Cody Rhodes and Daniel Bryan should be lighting up the intercontinental division, but the WWE is as random as Family Guy
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
WWE is terrible with the belts
Belts don’t mean shit there…guys wins the IC title and then job right after in a non-title matchup…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Jumping in to say...
I wish wrestling, and WWE especially, could promote their titles like the UFC does; use clear(er) weight divisions and push each belt like it’s as important as all the others. The UFC heavyweight title will likely have more pull given that the public has long perceived heavyweights in boxing as being more important, but at least the UFC tries to push their other belts as being on a mostly equal level.
In wrestling, for whatever reason, you need to stay below a weight limit to win a cruiserweight title, but a heavyweight title is essentially an open-weight title. I think that hurts credibility when smaller guys go for it.
Crazy ass suplex..
clusterfuck of a plex
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions
It’s weird seeing Bully Ray doing some of his moves since he isn’t as big as he used to be
Greatest lover ever during the day, Trainyard Sleeper at night.
It’s funny that hes 272 yet he lost a ton of weight.
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Hey, that was pretty good
People will scream about the cheap finish but I thought it was clever. Roode did a good job acting…
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions
Robert Roode said "count you son of a bitch!" lol he does more for me than Punk or Bryan
Lance Storm Version 2.0
Yep
He’s a good heel man…he’s doing well
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
Storm and Ray were out too long though...
Where were they that whole time?
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 12, 2012 10:49 PM EST reply actions
Sting tries to be legitimate by counting the pin after he smokes Hardy in the head with the belt? Makes no sense but a good PPV
by billsfan_905 on Feb 12, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I have decided that I don't like Fatal Fourways.
No, I do not. I don’t like Triple Threats either, but I have at least seen a couple of really good ones in my life (Douglas/Funk/Sabu, Rock/Angle/Undertaker). Those can work.
Fatal Fourways are always a mess. I can’t think of one that I would rate above “passable.”
Well, I guess if we count the E+C/Hardyz/Dudleyz matches as triple threats, those are good too.
But still…few and far between, man.
I can name 3 great Fatal Four Ways
Orlando Jordan(Ignore him) VS Chris Benoit VS Christian VS Booker T
Edge VS Benoit VS Angle VS Guerrero
Guerrero VS Taker VS Booker T VS JBL
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by Lance Storm on Feb 12, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions
I only remember the last one of those matches.
I think it suffered from what I think lots of Triple Threats and Fatal Fourways suffer from (and so did this match tonight): too much dead space for wrestlers who get hurt and sell it for like five minutes so that two wrestlers can have a sequence. I actually think that tonight’s TNA match was better about that sort of thing, but it sort of killed the end sequence because Ray and Storm were dead forever and it really bothered me.
But I’ll check out the top two matches and see what I think.
I want to...
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by Sergio Hernandez on Feb 13, 2012 1:22 AM EST reply actions
Yeah
we gotta a screwy finish, but least this one had some imagination to it lol. Plus, no title changes again. Maybe theyre f finally trying to give their titles some credibility again. So far so good for the overhaul n creative. Now, if we cld just get em outta the Impact Zone!
by LilNaitch on Feb 13, 2012 4:05 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Tag team belts changed hands, right?
I didn’t watch but that’s what I saw on that recap thread.
by The Name is Dalton on Feb 13, 2012 8:39 AM EST up reply actions
Yep.
Crimson accidentally hit Morgan, Morgan gets the snap-mare and elbow. Joe and Magnus get the titles.
It’d be the only organization where belts mean something. WWE has done their best to mutilate the credibility of their titles.
Totally agree about Impact Zone. That’s the next step, at least for the PPVs. Take the risk and get a big arena, so the crowd can actually get hot (see the England shows, which made TNA seem big league).
Conewalker
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by WolvesDenHoops on Feb 13, 2012 9:33 AM EST up reply actions




















