WWE Raw results and reactions from last night (Jan. 9): Keep on trolling
WWE Monday Night Raw last night (Jan. 9, 2012) emanated from Corpus Christi, Texas, and featured Chris Jericho trolling us even more, Kane stalking people and CM Punk taking a back seat to all of the above.
If you want full results from Raw last night, click here for the running live blog. Time to get to reactions from the show:
- This show was campy to the point of ridiculous. It was completely over the top and it was awesome. I honestly think it's entirely possible the writing team, along with Vince McMahon, just said, "F*ck it, college football is going to kick our ass anyway, let's just have fun." The result was a terribly goofy but incredibly fun show. That said, shows like this should only happen every now and again. It's a nice change of pace and a chance to take everything less seriously. Plus, it gives you Cagesiders a lot of great material for the live blog, which was hilarious once again.
- Chris Jericho trolled us again and he found a way to do it even better than last time. Instead of coming out and riling the crowd up and playing the annoying returning babyface like he did last time, he came out and played the babyface who was overwhelmed at the reception he received and couldn't contain his emotions. Walking out, cheering, then crying, then walking back and thumping his chest like he was so super grateful for the crowd's love was great. The fact that the crowd in Corpus Christi went along with it with few dissenting voices was even better.
- My initial thought with the idea of a program between Kane and John Cena was that WWE would use it to continue to tease Cena turning heel, which is what they've done in some ways. But what the storyline was really about was just another new and interesting way for the untouchable Cena to "rise above hate" once again. I don't blame WWE for playing it this way. In fact, it's probably the smartest thing to do. But it certainly continues to provide fans like myself little reason to ever care about him as a character. He's a good guy, sure. But on TV, I couldn't care less about anything he does. He's not actually being marketed to me, though, so I suppose it's a good thing that I'm not entertained by him.
- Kane jumped the shark tonight. The idea that the writers think it's still prudent to book an angle that sees the big monster stalking a young couple is just silly, especially when the big monster wins in the end, which is what happened last night. Ultimately, he'll fall, of course, but last night ended with Kane having chokeslammed Zack Ryder onto some wooden slats and choked out Cena. Poor Eve was still in the car. Can you imagine a young kid watching this with his father and marking out while watching Ryder and Cena go down? And then remembering Eve in the car? "Oh my god, Dad, Eve is still in the car! She's still in there! Who is going to save her?!? You don't think Kane is going to hurt her, do you Dad?" How do you answer that question if you're that dad? "Well, son, let's just hope Eve isn't a donk like Ryder and actually knows how to change a tire properly. And let's hope it doesn't take her an hour and a half like it took him."
- CM Punk should never, ever, ever, ever be in a match against Jack Swagger. Ever again. That entire debacle could have been avoided if the Creative Team was more, you know, creative. I counted at least three botches, the most notable of which being when Swagger nearly snapped Punk's leg on a roll up of all things. As if that wasn't bad enough, the ref for this match, which should be awarded negative stars (if that's possible and if it's not, it should be just for the purposes of this piece of crap), botched the finish by forgetting when and how it was actually supposed to happen. Punk was yelling at the referee like Randy Orton yelling at The Miz for selling an RKO too soon. Screwing up every now and again is fine but don't mess up when you're given a shot to work with the WWE champion or when you're reffing the WWE champion's match.
- Give me a reason to care about Sheamus or Wade Barrett. Just one. That's all I'm looking for. The best way to tell if a guy comes up short is when you're asked to describe him to someone. "Well, Sheamus is a really white Irish guy who sometimes cracks bad jokes on the microphone but usually gets pissed and just bludgeons people with his forearm." Over? No chance. How about Barrett? "He's a British tough guy who keeps talking about some sort of Barrage, whatever the hell that is." THAT'S IT. Over? Again, no chance in hell. I can't cheer Sheamus for the same reason I can't boo Barrett. Apathy.
- Santino Marella, on the other hand, can do no wrong.
Thoughts on the rest of the show after the jump.
- Brodus Clay debuted and I'll have more on that later but suffice to say it was another awesome troll job by WWE and John Laurinaitis playing it up on Twitter beforehand was a really nice touch. Really, this was a better troll job than Jericho. Just phenomenal in so many ways.
- John Laurinaitis solidified himself as the greatest thing on Raw today when he delivered this one line to The Miz, who was complaining to him about needing protection from R-Truth at the time. "I'm not Little Jimmy. I'm Big Johnny." The sh*t-eating grin on his face when he said this made it the moment of the night.
- Daniel Bryan squashing Kofi Kingston accomplished two things: 1) It gave Bryan an actual victory to build on for a guy who we're struggling to take seriously as world heavyweight champion and 2) It further punished Kingston, who is guilty of nothing except his association with Evan Bourne. Stupid, yes, but that's WWE for you. Nonetheless, it gave us a Bryan win on a pretty sweet spot where he reversed a crossbody into the LeBell Lock. A match was set up against Big Show for the title on Smackdown, which should do numbers as bad as last week. Oh, but this time it's no disqualification and no countout. Tune in to see how Bryan keeps his title without actually winning!
- Can someone tell me how it's possible that The Miz went from being booked as this killer heel who takes people out to this whiny little crybaby who begs any jobber he can find to help protect him from R-Truth in the span of like two weeks? How did this happen? Did Vince read a pro wrestling website and realize how stupid it was to book Miz tough in the first place? This character suits Miz much better but he still looks terrible.
- Ricardo Rodriguez singing saved the entire segment with Miz and Truth.
- Honestly, if you can't get behind Dolph Ziggler doing a headstand while he's got Cena in a headlock, pro wrestling isn't for you. I shouldn't say that, necessarily, but I simply cannot comprehend how one could see that and not crack a smile. The showoff character sounded lame at first but as with all things Ziggler, he's making it work for him.
Overall, this show gets an A grade for me, simply because if you let yourself just have fun with what was presented, it was a good time. Think of it like an Adam Sandler movie. It's so bad, it's good.
That's it from me, though. Now it's time for you Cagesiders to tell us your thoughts in the comments section below.
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Brodus Clay is seriously awesome. His “My Bad” comment was amazing. Soon the crowd will be dancing along with him like the Rikishi bits.
I thought the CM Punk/Swagger match was pretty good. Even the botched ending was saved by the WWE doing the instant replay angle. It felt like a challenged play in football. Good save. Perhaps CM Punk shouldn’t have made it so obvious it was a botch though.
The Big Johnny comment totally killed me. It seriously stole my heart.
Funkasaurus
I can see this being a setup. The “creative has nothing for him” situation was well known, so they finally give him a dancing fat man comedy gimmick. Big monster plays along for a while, then gets fed up & loses it, leading to the monster heel steamroller.
Or the Funkasaurus gets over and he’s here to stay. Neither would surprise me.
I'm on the Brodus Clay bandwagon
and if you heard him talk during his time on NXT, he’s probably one of the best FCW guys that the WWE has on the mic (along with Derrick Bateman). After one night, I believe he can make it work and its here to stay for a while.
I'm down with the Funkasaurus.
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by King Oskar on Jan 10, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Perhaps CM Punk shouldn’t have made it so obvious it was a botch though.
This was what I was thinking. If they had just gone with the instant replay/Cole pointing it out angle, they could’ve played it off as another reason why Big Johnny needs to come in and referee such an important match. At least then they could pass it off as storyline.
by The Name is Dalton on Jan 10, 2012 1:01 PM EST up reply actions
At some point in the night Cole did play it off as a reason that Mr. Excitement had to ref
by Buckeye Brawler on Jan 10, 2012 6:00 PM EST up reply actions
Looked like a really bad LMFAO music video
I laughed though. I hope Clay gets more opportunities. The man is one hell of a talent.
I honestly feel like this will probably be one of the best Raws of the year
I don’t even know where to begin. Brodus Clay had to be my favorite, debuting with something none of us saw coming and I couldn’t believe it but he made it work so damn well. Zack Ryder was just hilarious, especially when he sees the flat tire and instantly starts to try and change the tire. Cena got his ass handed to him for most of the time he was on the screen and didn’t really do much talking. Ricardo Rodriguez, Big Johnny, and R Truth were at their best comedically and outdid Santino with the funny, which usually isn’t easy to do.
And of course Jericho being brought to tears by the love he was getting and having to bail out of the ring was great.
The only bad part was the ending to the Punk match. They might play it up in the storyline or something, but as of right now, that’s a big WTF moment. The ref aside, Punk and Swagger had a couple of botches I noticed, but it was a really long match and those will come out then more than when you’re working a 3 minute match. Most importantly, they recovered from the botches pretty well and kept on going.
This was not a good episode at all. The Bryan-Kingston match was what, two minutes? Barely enough time to tell any kind of story. They could have spent forty-five minutes on this match and it would have improved the show considerably.
Brodus Clay’s new gimmick is an insult to the intelligence of all serious wrestling fans. He looked like a complete fool and the whole mess completely sapped my interest in his long-awaited Raw debut. There is nothing wrong with putting a huge scary guy out there as a simply a huge scary guy. When they offered him this gimmick he should have punched them all in the face. Unless it was his idea, in which case he should leave wrestling entirely. You are giving WWE way too much credit calling this a troll job. It is just a stupid gimmick.
The problem with Sheamus is that no one knows what to do with him. They could, I don’t know, put him into an actual program with someone and give him more than five minutes to work.
Santino is great.
I am already tired of watching Chris Jericho do nothing.
Not watching next week.
I feel the complete opposite about Brodus Clay, I almost don't know what to say
Brodus Clay was originally supposed to be Mark Henry basically, but with Henry being Henry you couldn’t just put a Raw version of him out there (especially when there’s no brand split). I mean, you could, but it would take away from the effectiveness of both Henry and Clay as monster heels. So instead, the WWE, and I’m guessing Brodus was involved in this decision too, decided to do something that none of us saw coming. They gave us the Funkasaurus. And he nailed it perfectly. He came out with the dancers (Naomi and the Tough Enough girl who’s favorite divas match was Melina-Alicia Fox LOLOLOLOL), had a shit eating grin on his face the whole time, and busted a move.
And that was just the entrance. The money was in how he brought the funk to the ring. The gyrating when Hawkins had him in a hold and the reaction from Hawkins was priceless. It reminded me of Rico from a few years back. Usually, these type of gimmicks are reserved for guys like Rico and Santino who then end up as only a funny gimmick and can’t really get pushed. Brodus Clay doesn’t have to be as worried about that with his size. He can dance and gyrate all night long, but Clay is a 6-7 monster at heart and you better believe he can crush just about anyone in the WWE.
Yeah, Brodus gyrated and Hawkins felt gay and backed off. Very original. Never seen anything like it before. Not reliant on homophobia for its effect at all.
Clay looked like an idiot. I felt like an idiot watching it. All of pro wrestling looked stupid. It was beyond awful. The most exciting thing during the entire hour and forty five minutes I watched — because after Jericho’s pointless little act I had had enough — were the Hall of Fame announcements, and they even screwed that up. WWE realizes that some of us remember the Horsemen, right? That Flair-Blanchard-Anderson-Windham was not the only lineup, or even the original? That Ole Anderson, and Chris Benoit, and Steve McMichael, and Sting, and many others were Horsemen and they are part of that history too? Either you induct the Horsemen in all their forms or you don’t induct them.
It has nothing to do with homophobia
Most guys would not like Brodus Clay rubbing his butt on their junk.
“not watching next week.”
Good. I’d hate to see you force yourself to watch something you don’t like again.
by 8bitDan on Jan 10, 2012 2:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
The result was a terribly goofy but incredibly fun show. That said, shows like this should only happen every now and again. It’s a nice change of pace and a chance to take everything less seriously.
That’s what I was thinking. As much as I prefer a more straightforward wrasslin’ approach, this was fun. However, I wouldn’t want this to be the norm.
Wow. The rare and elusive A from Geno
What a great show all around. It is absolutely criminal that the ratings will be down this week. This was too good to be tossed away. They’ll bring it back to realism, but hopefully we can keep away from the super serious wrestling business for just a little while longer. And I really hope Trips was behind this. It would make me so much more comfortable for the future.
So go forth, my brethren, and proceed to mark the f*ck out
by C. J. Bradford on Jan 10, 2012 10:28 AM EST reply actions
Not digging the Brotus Clay debacle but..
It is pretty funny how he was “vignette-hyped” and then just never showed up. A couple weeks ago John Lori says he’s coming “next week” but he never shows. And then when he finally does show….he’s a gimmick. I’m not a gimmick fan but even I were, this one was pretty damn bad. It’s like the old Vicera run back in the day when he danced around and shit…but this time it’s so obvious that it’s simply because a lapse in writing, or it’s a troll. Who knows…maybe next week he’ll show up as a scary big monster??
Ziggler is one of the best parts of RAW for me. He always puts on the best matches and even if he’s booked like shit, he makes the best of it. Hence being out in a match with Cena, and still making it a pro wrestling match. I LOVE him programming with CM Punk, but I worry that they dont do their match at Rumble the proper justice with this “John as the ref” angle….if they let them go all out that’ll be a fantastic match.
Kane is being used to re-make people like Cena again. Notice how Kane’s show starting promo was more directed at the fans than Cena like the past couple of weeks have been. If you take Cena out of the angle, I think this is some of Kane’s best work. The promo he delivered, while it was watered down in parts, was a sure sign of his ability to tap into the psychology of mic work. The nuances of his speach were so natural it makes you forget about any image of Kane being a baby face or a nice guy. Kane has reinvented himself here, and I like it, but I long for what it will be after the Cena stuff is out of the way.
Jericho is doing something pretty fantastic. He’s finding a new way to turn. He’s not doing it the easy way; the way he’s proven he’s able to do every run he has. His angle alone is giving me reason to tune in to RAW everyday, which means what he’s doing is working. I say let it ride till Rumble. Let everyone develope a natural dislike..a real dislike, and then win the rumble and go on to have an amazing match at mania with Punk (and maybe make a pit stop with Ziggler because that would be incredible)
:)
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by MMAdams on Jan 10, 2012 10:45 AM EST via mobile reply actions

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by Jesse Holland on Jan 10, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions 9 recs
Cena should come out with a shirt that says this
Proud member of the fire Brian Schottenheimer club
"Grunt and Punt offense"
"To all the nonbelievers..."
You knew the game when you got into it
"Planing for Manning"
by Jadden Hopkins on Jan 10, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Brodus
I can understand the gimmick and as someone said previously, they already have a Mark Henry. But, sorry, I’m not behind this one at all.
This is one of those horrible 1990s gimmicks and while I don’t doubt he’ll be popular on a Rikishi/Khali level, it’s just not for me. The whole thing just came off as cheesy at best and downright stupid at worst.
Not a fan.
The Daniel Bryan thing, on the other hand, is flat out hilarious. Would love to see him do some sort of gimmick where he beats up jobbers like Jericho did to a degree in WCW. He could then even keep a running toll of consecutive wins or something…walking around with a sign.
Wasn’t a fan of him getting the title so soon initially, but I think this thing has legs if he plays it right.
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My guess
is that Brodus will come out to a different gimmick each week, ‘testing’ each of them out before finally turning on the GM and becoming a monster face.
this i could get behind
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by Parkinglotninja on Jan 10, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
Losing The Funkasaurus would break my heart.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Jan 10, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking this myself
We’ll see, I guess.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking of a similar idea
where he comes out with a different music-based gimmick every week. I picture him at some point wearing a Mozart or Bach wig and being accompanied by violinists.
It could do well for a month
But would get old quickly. Big Show had a stretch where he impersonated different wrestlers every week. Stuff like that is great, but gets old quickly, and makes the wrestler more of a joke. I think wrestling needs more throwback, fat ugly bastards just being straight up heels (Bundy, Vader, etc.). Keep the faces as the smaller guys in the underdog roles. Guys like Clay & Henry are natural fits in those roles. Just add a manager with a stable.
re: the ref botch
I think Cole and King did a helluva job covering for the ref botch. When they showed it in slow-mo they played up the fact that the ref messed up and used that as an explanation as to why “Big Johnny” named himself as special ring enforcer or whatever. I thought that maybe it might have been an intentional screw up to continue that story, but after watching it again, it was clearly obvious that no one expected it to end that way and it was definitely a botch. I bet Jack Doan got an ear full from Punk and Vince backstage.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
Yep. That's what commentary is for.
Good improv to build on the existing story.
Cole and King
I’m usually so negative about them, I had to give them props for doing a good job adjusting on the fly. It’s the little things.
Maslow's theory of higher needs does not apply to Patrick Willis. He only has two needs: tackling people and finding people to tackle.
"John Laurinaitis solidified himself as the greatest thing on Raw today"
Who knew that this sentence was possible.
Best Raw in months
It didn’t try to take itself too seriously, and that is why it was awesome.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 1:37 PM EST reply actions
I think this idea is sort of a dividing line for wrestling fans.The lack of seriousness is insulting to me. I’d rather see Davey Richards wrestle Roderick Strong for an hour, followed by replays of late-90s All-Japan and then a couple of Magnum T.A. — Tully Blanchard matches. I want to see a staged sporting event, not some clown in mask sneaking around and grabbing people. My girlfriend DVRs Days Of Our Lives every day, so I have access to that sort of craziness if I want it. It’s not what I want from pro wrestling. I don’t want talk and complicated plotlines. I want lengthy, expertly-worked matches featuring guys who look like athletes and put on a compelling staged athletic competition.
This is why organizations like RoH and EVOLVE will never be killed. They may never be as big or profitable as lighter, more soap opera-esque WWE but there is always going to be a subset of fans who want to see the wackiness minimized.
Different strokes for different folks. I always thought it would be interesting to have Raw be zany and Smackdown be more old school wrestling based. That would kind of be like the best of both worlds.
expertly-worked matches featuring guys who look like athletes
Just curious, what is your opinion on Punk? He doesn’t look like an athlete to me.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Jan 10, 2012 5:39 PM EST up reply actions
Why does lightheartedness, or characters with character preclude well worked athletes who
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 5:58 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
know how to wrestle?
I want more gimmicks, as that would improve 75% of the relatively dull and generic roster. That doesn’t mean I want crap matches.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 5:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
For one thing the plots and jokes and gimmicks take time away from the matches. Raw is two hours, sometimes three. It’s not like ten hours long. There is a limited amount of time and if you spend twenty to thirty minutes screwing around with Kane’s evil machinations, you end up with Bryan and Kingston in the ring for three minutes. Every match doesn’t need to be half an hour, but personally I don’t think you can establish a compelling match in less than five minutes unless it’s a squash.
Also, I just don’t think the gimmicks make any sense. I want wrestling to be more like sports. In a certain sense it is a sport. I want it to be taken seriously, and I want it to take itself seriously. Everything should be about what happens in the ring. Do you care if, in his spare time, a guy from your local hockey or football team likes to wear red and dance? Personally, I really don’t. So why should I accept Brodus Clay coming to the ring in some getup and dancing in the ring?
Then you get matches like Daniel Bryan vs. Kofi Kingston,
where you have two more-or-less pretty talented guys, where no one gives that much of a damn, and there’s very little crowd reaction, because vanilla wrestlers are vanilla. That’s the biggest problem the WWE has right now, I think, outside of procuring and utilizing the talent they have. Their midcard faces, about 75% of them are interchangeable, with their major differences being their looks and styles of wrestling, because they’re all so bland in the personality department.
Time management is something they definitley could improve on. But, again, just like wrestlers having more gimmicks doesn’t preclude an emphasis on wrestling skill in and of itself, wrestlers having more gimmicks doesn’t preclude more time being spent on the matches themselves in and of itself. If generic guy spends a minute and a half walking to the ring and posing, what difference does it make if Zack Ryder also takes a minute and a half to walk to the ring and pose, but while doing so, is recording Z: True Long Island Story on his iPhone, pumping his fist, and generally being Zack Ryder?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
People don't care about Kofi Kingson and Daniel Bryan because they're booked to be losers.
Kofi has been more or less on the losing end of everything he’s been involved with ever since Orton beat him clean on RAW, and Dragon has lost even more matches than Kofi. The Commentary team either goes out of its way to bury both guys, particularly Dragon, or they muster up no effort to defend them. Neither guy gets a lot of promo time, not that it would matter because neither are great promos, and it’s impossible to get invested in their programs because they have no consequence to anything whatsoever.
It has nothing to do with lack of gimmicks or style of wrestling, it has to do with the fact that WWE books those guys to be total losers.
Yeah, Santino loses more often than not, and he gets relativley large audience pops
So, being booked to be a general loser isn’t it. Conversely, Dolph Ziggler, a winner, largely gets no response. Being booked to be a general winner isn’t it, either.
People don’t care about Bryan, or Kofi, or Mason Ryan, or Alex Reilly, or Evan Bourne, or nearly every other guy on the card because they’re presented as boring, without personality. Give a generic midcard guy, such as Mark Henry, something to stand out if his attributes/wrestling/whatever else don’t already accomplish that, and he stands out, and the audience reacts accordingly.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Jan 10, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
Gimmicks help
I think a big reason Dan Severn and then Ken Shamrock got the pop they did is becuase thier gimick was that of real life ass kickers. You had Stone Cold and the Rock and they were wrestling bad asses, but here came two certified real world tough guys and that was enough to set them apart from the WWE roster.
Now though it seems everyone has the same gimick that of “Wrestler” so its hard to get excited about a technicle match becuase you could sub anyone in and it’d be the same storyline.
Honestly, Sheamus and Barrett feuding based solely on Ireland vs. England would be enough for me. I’m a Sheamus fan.
As I’ve said before, I’d like to see Daniel Bryan be a tough, able-to-beat-everybody kind of guy, but if he can get over with this “I WON (kinda)!” heel character, I’ll be happy.
What are the odds that Jericho comes out next week as an angry badass, trashes the announce desk and ringside area, then leaves?
Jericho will do nothing
until he gets boo’d. It could take weeks.
No CM Punk on the mic?
Maybe Punk was the one who actually wrote the show. He wanted to bring fun back. I didn’t even notice the lack of Punk until afterward. I’m kind of tired of Punk’s ramblings anyway. As for the botch finish, I was thinking that was the plan all along. That gives an excuse so Vickie can be at ringside for their title match, since Punk’s win was not definitive.
This was my favorite Raw in years, yes years. It had a few running story lines throughout the show and lots of quick backstage segments. Santino, Ricardo, R-Truth, Ziggler, Big Johnny, Otunga, Brodus Clay, and Punk checking out Rosa’s butt were all aces in my book. I really wish this is the new direction of Raw.
by Manolo Has Pizzazz on Jan 10, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions
Agreee good Raw and as others have said the story could go that Punk is angry at the victory he got because he likes to win legit not by errors or cheating. He is the best in the world remember.
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Punk checking Rosa out when she walked away was a nice touch
It’s the little things…
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Am I the only person who found it funny that Zack Ryder somehow bounced a good 5 foot
after being chokeslammed onto wood pallets?
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CM Punk / Swagger finish was work IHMO...
… to show how important Johnny Ace’s role will be at the Royal Rumble.
One mistake by the ref, and it is all gone.
I liked it very much.
For non-video proof sports like soccer in Europe, or wrestling (;o) this is both hugely annoying and suspenseful at the same time.
They'll probably play it like it's a work
but that looked nothing like one. Punk was going straight into the Anaconda Vice and Swagger was working towards it, as well. Punk’s anger after the match and mini-tantrum also looked real. It’s good that the announcers at least got it right.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
This statement likely won't stir up much controversy.
The Cena/Kane feud is the worst thing WWE has booked in years, maybe ever. The whole angle is just so unbelievably stupid I’m actually expecting Abyss to get out of his TNA contract solely so he can be Kane’s tag team partner against Cena and Ryder, and I just know the Cena/Kane match will be awful on a level no WWE match involving actual wrestlers has been since the Kane/Fake Kane match.
I can't wait for the next angle you hate
so it can also be called the worst thing WWE has booked in years.
The Cena/Kane feud isn’t even close to the top 10 worst feuds the WWE has done in the last 5 years.
by hfl2013 on Jan 10, 2012 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I agree. There is no way that Cena/Kane is the worse feud in the last five years. The worst one in the last ten years? HHH/Scott Steiner hands down.
by StrongStyle81 on Jan 10, 2012 8:51 PM EST up reply actions
All of the following Kane matches and feuds were as bad as HHH/Steiner, if not worse.
Kane vs. Big Show (King of the Ring ’99)
Undertaker & Kane vs. KroniK (Summerslam ’01)
Batista vs. Kane (Unforgiven ’02)
Kane vs. Matt Hardy (Summerslam ’04)
Kane vs. Gene Stintsky (New Years Revolution ’05)
Kane vs. Fake Kane (Vengeance ’06)
Kane vs. The Great Khali (Wrestlemania 23)
Kane vs. The Great Khali (Summerslam ’09)
Kane vs. Edge (Survivor Series ’10)
Undertaker vs. Kane (too many PPV’s to count)
Cena/Kane will probably be just as bad as any of those matches on a technical level, and is already worse than any of those feuds from a retarded booking perspective for the Ultimate Warrior magic mirror bit alone.
I humbly disagree. The only feud/match that could possibly be worse than HHH/Steiner was HHH/Kane.
by StrongStyle81 on Jan 10, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
I can’t wait for the next angle you hate so it can also be called the worst thing WWE has booked in years.
It’s not my fault I have standards, it’s WWE’s fault that they keep lowering their own bar.
by *Asterisk* on Jan 10, 2012 8:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hyperbole really loses it effect when you constantly overuse it.
It would be like me saying that this is the WORST opinion you’ve ever had on this site after every post you make. Then again, when you say things like Cena/Kane might be the worst feud ever or Mark Henry sucks, maybe its true.
by hfl2013 on Jan 10, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I doubt any WWE feud will be as terrible as Chavo Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio, but this is easily the worst feud since then.
How is Cena vs. Kane not horrible? Why aren’t you seeing how bad it is? How is it you still have expectations for their eventual match? How is it excusable that Cena/Kane related antics took up half a dozen segments in this weeks RAW alone?
It had the opening spot and the ending spot, probably totaling about 15 minutes of time for 2 of the biggest names in the WWE
Between that time, it was just positive Zack Ryder screen time, which I have no problem with even if there was a Kane story behind his screen time. There was the segment where he talked to his dad and got a date with Eve and the segment where he is brushing his teeth in preparation for the date. Then you had the one super short segment where Cena attempts to put Ryder over. That’s 5 total, am I missing one?
Why am I not seeing how bad it is? Because its not that bad. Clearly, you hate Kane and everything about him. There is no angle or feud he could be involved in where you wouldn’t hate him, just like with Mark Henry. Many, many others disagree with you. Why do I have expectations for their eventual match? Because its one of the few pairings John Cena can have where he doesn’t have an extensive history with the worker, is actually facing a main event caliber wrestler, and can actually lose in a match.
The angle could be salvaged, though...
…If you let Zack and Eve do their own thing, leave them out of this, and bring it back to a focus on Cena and what Kane thinks is wrong with him.
Time to spread a little chaos...
You'd still have the problem of the evenutal Cena/Kane match.
There’s not enough lipstick in the world for that pig.
I suppose I’ll give you that one, but as much as it pains me to admit it, as 80’s-era Hogan taught us, sometimes a great angle mitigates a lackluster match here and there.
Time to spread a little chaos...
You know...
It might be smart to do just that. Have Ryder tell Cena he wants nothing to do with him because of Kane. Advances the Cena storyline — his friend abandons him — and makes Ryder something more than the puppy who follows Cena.

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