Is Ring of Honor COO Joe Koff slipping into the same TV trap that HDNet did?
This is the most important week in Ring Of Honor (ROH) wrestling history. After a four month lame duck period since Sinclair Broadcasting Group (SBG) bought the company, their new television show is set to debut on Sinclair stations this coming Saturday. I wish ROH the best of luck in their endeavours to make new fans through this opportunity. They deliver the most athletic wrestling action in North America and have the best booking too, thanks to veteran promoting hands like Jim Cornette and Gary Juster aiding the creative Hunter "Delirious" Johnson to craft consistently compelling and logical storylines. They deserve to succeed, but that doesn't mean that they will. Ever since we heard the news at Cageside Seats of the buyout, we've been skeptical at how Sinclair Broadcasting planned to make syndicating wrestling programming work after it died out 15 years ago. Unfortunately the recent appearance of ROH's new COO Joe Koff on Bryan Alvarez's Figure Four Daily radio show did nothing to allay my fears.
I think Koff is so in love with the ROH product that he seems oblivious as to how difficult it will be to turn what is basically a third tier wrestling promotion into a profitable entity. He says that all the product needs is exposure, but personally I'm not sure Sinclair Broadcasting is enough of a step up from HDNet to make much of a difference, given that over 75% of the country won't receive the show. Their television thankfully will also be made available on a delayed basis on the ROH website, but that's only a means to service their existing fan base in those markets where Sinclair Broadcasting do not have an affiliate.
When asked about how the ROH show will differ from the one that aired on HDNet, I wasn't convinced that all they needed to do for it to be a success was give it a fresh lick of paint and thought that many of the criticisms he leveled at HDNet as a station could also be used against his SBG:
"I think the main difference is the focus. The people that I have producing this program are wrestling people, so I think it brings a different spirit to the taping. You're going to see brand new graphics. You're going to see incredible action, which I think you saw on the HDNet show. You know what, I think the HDNet show was fine, I just think that nobody saw it. Perhaps if it was a larger platform we wouldn't be having this conversation, you'd be talking to Cary still. But, you know, the difference is that HDNet platform while it's worldwide and while it has coverage and carriage on most cable systems, it's just not a destination for anybody and just having an errant hour of Ring Of Honor wrestling which is hardly, you know, to the fan, to the true fan everyone know what it is, but to the casual wrestling fan, just like you said earlier, what is ROH exactly? Nobody is going to seek it out. It was also up against Raw on Monday night, there were a lot of strategic things that just didn't make sense about that, but prior to me, I don't knock it, I give Cary all the credit for even getting the clearance on HDNet. But as far as technically or as far as aesthetically, I'd like to think our program is just as pretty, but I think it's the content that's going to make us soar. I mean having Nigel in there and Kevin Kelly I think these are good additions to the program. It's well thought out, it's gonna tell a story, we're introducing our people to the non-ROH fan in the opening episodes because we have to establish ourselves as an organisation, so I think people are going to find it entertaining and I want them to just enjoy it and see the wrestling and go wow, that's really good wrestling, I can't wait to see what they have next week and then that's how it builds. Hopefully someone will tell a friend and someone will tell a friend and every person knows ten people and if then those ten people tell ten more people, then I'm in business."
Oh dear, where should I start? The problem is that there's a cap on how far just having incredible action can take you. Most casual wrestling fans will need to see at least some star power to get them to tune in for the first time and ROH has non one who fits that bill. Strategically, I'm not sure Saturday nights is a sound move either, as it's not a good night for television viewership and most weeks will have stiff sports competition from MMA and college football. Also, in many of the markets, the show airs out of prime time. It's a minor point, but unless they brought in someone with mainstream credibility like Jim Ross, new announcers aren't going to make a jot of ratings difference. Finally, if the product was that great to begin with, then word of mouth would have helped make the TV show a success on HDNet, but clearly it didn't, as it had little buzz even from hardcore fans.
I think the big idea to market their new television show is to push the program on their affiliate newscasts, but I doubt that will be very effective, as so few people watch local news nowadays and most newsreaders will either begrudgingly put the show over or do so mockingly. So what do you think Cagesiders, is ROH COO Joe Koff slipping into the same TV trap that HDNet did?
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I don’t know if I’d call it falling into the same trap but more like whether they are going to have enough outlets to get to the casual wrestling fan. One of the reasons ROH didn’t do so well when they were with HDNet was because they weren’t on stations you would be able to watch on your standard cable provider like Comcast or what do they refer to as now? Xfinity?
The majority of the people I know has this and stations like the ones WWE and TNA has their weekly shows on were easily available do to it being a known cable channel, even if you have the most standard package from the company, first WWE was with the USA network, then bounced to TNN which turned into Spike only to bounce back to the USA network and when SD! was on, you could watch it on UPN which you can pick up even if you didn’t have cable, then they bounced to the CW which didn’t last very long and back the UPN only to go to Syfy because of the money offered. I may have those mixed up but you get the idea. when WWE had SD! on their could watch it, even now they moved to SyFy, it’s easily accessible. Then there’s TNA who when they were first starting after the weekly ppv’s were on FSN which was pretty much available till they got their deal with Spike.
The thing about ROH being on HDNet was that only so many people were able to get it like people who had DirecTV or Dish Network and most that own those aren’t wrestling fans most likely. There were cable systems I haven’t even heard of except for Fios which launched not to what 05 but they were steadily building their product and still are throughout the country. Some people still aren’t able to get it. It’s a working progress.
I recently switched to Fios and but have the most affordable package which is the first option they give you. In order to get HDNet, I’d have to upgrade it which I don’t have any intentions of doing but even so, not alot people still aren’t sold on Fios and stuck to what they’ve had for years in Comcast. HDNet is getting dropped from some major names lately. As for this most recent deal, it’s good to see them with a bigger company that has alot more access to people but still the stations that ROH will be on, the area might not have it which results in people having to watch it online. I’m not one to watch an entire hour long program online, I just prefer sitting in front of a tv, relaxing and what not but that’s me. I’ve seen the available station list for this to watch and I don’t think I am able to since I live close to DC. I saw there’s one for B-More but there channels differ from mine so even though this is a bigger step then what they were doing with HDNet, if they want more people to watch, they are going to need to be on a station that’s easy to access and not just be in certain areas of the entire country.
What I’d do if I were ROH is have the shows available to sale to the public for those that cannot watch it. Do one monthly like OVW use to to when they were WWE’s developmental program which I might add is where I saw all the big names you see now in both WWE and TNA perform.
by congestedthoughts on Sep 22, 2011 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
I couldn't seem to find them listed in Portland
And I was really looking forward to it too :(
Unless TNA does a 180, RoH won’t be 3rd-tier much longer. They just need to keep doing what they’re doing. The talent knows about them, and they’re going to be looking better and better as an option. Finding a sugar daddy to throw a few mil their way would help too.
Release...the KITTIES!
I would certainly DVR it if I got a channel that would air it
that said there is a lot of other thigns taking up my time from school to MMA to other most likely better TV shows
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I would say
this deal only marginally better than the HDNet deal. HDNet is only available in most of the country, bust usually it is part of a specific package, plus you have to have HD service in order to even watch it. So it’s audience was limited.
Despite the fact that they are only in a few markets virtually all of the people in those markets will be able to watch the show, that just wasn’t the case with HDNet.
That’s not much of an improvement but it is probably their best chance on TV right now which is a pretty sad statement really.
by Anthony Steven Lewis on Sep 23, 2011 8:11 AM EDT reply actions
They just need to focus on the essentials like on characters, good stories, letting people do what they do best without executive interference and introducing new things like new wrestling styles, finishers, and so many things. Experiment, experiment, and try many new things while taking risks head on without being afraid. Only then ROH won’t fall into formula that seems to hurt bigger wrestling promotions but they’ll have creative freedom that people will recognize it for.
Only if ROH realizes all this and learns from the mistakes that other bigger wrestling promotions make then they can do it. This is their biggest (and possibly only) advantage in my opinion.
Havent seen anything that would convert new fans in the promotional media issued so far. Neither cool or youthful just we are workratez
by rovert on Sep 23, 2011 4:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
Some of the online stuff has been pretty cool (the Briscoes and Young Bucks promos, for example), but yeah the advertisements to be shown on Sinclair Broadcasting have been an ineffective bust for exactly that reason.
by Keith Harris on Sep 24, 2011 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions
They need to find the teenager who did all their Final Battle stuff.
by rovert on Sep 24, 2011 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs

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