Sprechen Die Wrasslin'? Heels And Faces
So while a real drama is unfolding between two Light-heavyweight fighters and the most successful gym in MMA history, and themes surfacing of betrayal and selfishness are genuine, how these events continue to unfold may be worth looking at more closely with just a pinch of cynicism.
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I would hope anyone who reads this blog is familiar with wrestling terms by now.
And heel definitely originated from the 20’s slang…
Also what examples of tweeners can you provide that haven’t drawn?
To me, a tweener is someone who is portrayed in a traditional heel/face manner but is either so good at being heel they receive cheers or so bad at being a face they are booed, which usually leads to a heel turn. In no instance that I recall has a tweener character failed to draw money or be met with indifference. Quite the opposite actually. That’s not to say that there aren’t a lot of wrestlers who fit your definition, I just wouldnt call that a tweener.
Early 90’s Undertaker was a mega-heel who only feuded with the top babyfaces, yet always received a strong babyface reaction, just not as strong as his opponent which would mean he wasnt an anti-hero, but a tweener.
Ric Flair, Jake Roberts, The Rock, Randy Orton, Scott Hall, Kevin Nash, Jericho, Curt Hennig and Macho Man also come to mind as traditional tweener characters (at one time or another during their respective careers)
Stone Cold began receiving cheers by mid-96 but didnt fully turn face until WM13 in ’97, thus becoming the prototypical anti-hero. His character was fully developed the entire time, and eventually the crowd reaction reflected this.
I started out writing this comment with a negative view of your article, but I suppose it’s intended to educate the MMA-centric reader about rasslin’ terminology, which you did in great detail. So, good work.
Also, I dont know if the heel/face dynamic is appropriate to be applied to the Evans/Jones situation, but I would consider Rashad a tweener and Jones a mega-babyface. Kind of like the original Miz-Cena feud where you had a heel challenging the uber-face and garnering support on the strength of his promos. I see a lot of parallels between the Miz and Rashad in this case.
This is easily one of the best comments I've ever read on this site.
Well said, sir.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
by Geno Mrosko on Mar 24, 2011 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Great comment, thanks for making it
I’ve never liked the idea of tweeners being popular, especially in TNA’s short lived ‘Heel Section’ which was basically a group of fans who were marks for themselves and wanted to get noticed by bucking the trend. Plenty of wrestlers work hard to be the villain to help put over the hero and are good at it, and if they’re not getting the desired response but instead get some so called Smart Marks cheering for them because they ‘get’ or ‘appreciate’ their work it’s problematic.
In some cases heels are too good at what they do and end up showing up the face who’s usually too green to hold his own. Most of these heels are well aware they have more talent then the rookie face across the ring from them but by failing to be company players and carrying them and instead show up the guy they’re working with, they’re essentially going into business for themselves. It used to be a physical shoot, but these days it’s a psychological shoot.
Also never underestimate the sheer stubbornness of management to make a turn despite how the crowds are reacting. WWE refused to turn Cena heel for years when there was plenty of occasion live audiences had turned on him, but simply there wasn’t a better face to take his place as well as be a huge merchandising success. Now with the angle with The Rock, there is.
Some will point to a successful tweener as Eddie Guerrero in his “Lie, Cheat & Steal” days but I’d argue he was a type of anti-hero again whose antics were more mischief then malicious and we saw them used against other heels sometimes monster heels like Lesnar at that time.
And yeah, these commentaries are for the more casual fan. Not everyone that comes to this site knows what a lot of insider terms mean especially if their interest has been primarily in MMA.
But again, thanks for the comment.
Jones is interesting...
To casual fans, he’s a face for sure. To hardcores, he’s more of a tweener. As you say, he’s become such a mega-babyface that he’s almost circled to the other end of the continuum and become the CM Punk style clean-cut heel to probably half the hardcore fanbase. Meaning, I’m betting by the time Jones and Rashad match up, it’s going to be a clean 50-50 split on who sees who as the good guy.
I cant speak to any TNA comparisons
as I’ve never been able to get through an episode of impact.
As for smart-marks cheering for heels, it probably used to be more problematic pre-attitude era, when heels and faces were more clear-cut. Nowadays it seems the gray area in between has widened and theres not as big of a distinction. Jericho is a perfect example of a tweener who hates to be cheered because he has that old school mentality, which I respect, while members of the clique were more likely to go into business for themselves, ushering in the era of the “cool-heel”, or definitive tweener.
I wouldn’t see either instance as being problematic as any reaction is a good thing in my view and if anything it would push other performers to become better at playing their role.
For instance, as popular as cool-heel NWO was, they were not receiving the face reactions of those with whom they feuded, namely Luger, DDP, Sting, Piper.
Specifically with Luger, it helped bring him to a new level of popularity as he was arguably the most over wrestler in the company circa 1997, therefore the tweener NWO stable was not problematic, but actually quite beneficial to those who could hang with them. Luger never ever achieved that level of notoriety before or after his NWO feud.
Eddy, I view in the same vein as Austin (albeit on a smaller scale) as he toed the line between tweener and antihero for about a year prior to his push and eventual match with Lesnar. His tweener reactions forced the booking into making him an antihero.
Jon Jones is John Cena 100%. He is the new face of the UFC, whom they are behind wholeheartedly. When he debuted though, he (seemingly) flew under the radar for a few years, although everyone noticed him as something special and he was quite popular with the hardcores prior to his “UFC push”. Cena followed that exact structure as he was quite popular with the hardcores during his initial heel-rapper push but was then turned on when he became stale, cookie-cutter, corporate babyface….something Jon Jones is about to become, if he hasnt already.
Anyways, I really enjoy reading the articles on this blog and look forward to participating in more discussion in the future.

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![Forrest Griffin on losing to Anderson Silva and possibly fighting Jon Jones:
Forrest - "I hope I'm not fighting Jon "Bones" Jones. I might be. Fuck it; if I am, I am. I'll do it, but I'm not even training right now. That's a bad dude. That dude wil' whup my ass. Fuck it. What's the worst...I mean, it couldn't be worse than Anderson Silva. It shouldn't be worse than that, right? Every fight I go into, no matter what happens, it couldn't be worse than Anderson Silva," Griffin pointed out. "'Cos that shit was a year ago and literally every day people ask me something about that. 'What happened...What happened?' You want to know what happened? It's on page 23 [of my new book] if you need to know. Check it out."
Ellis - "He punched you in the chin."
Forrest - "Repeatedly. And I was very confused. I tried to punch him and he literally moved his head out of the way and looked at me like I was stupid for doing it. He looked at me like, 'Why would you do such a stupid thing?' He looked at me like, 'Oh, did you really think you were going to hit me? What a stupid thing to think you slow, slow white boy,' and then he punched me. I felt embarrassed for even trying to punch him. I felt like some kid trying to wrestle with his dad."](http://cdn1.sbnation.com/fan_shot_images/139048/2_small.jpg)










