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Cageside Seats' UFC 128 Post-Fight Throwdown

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"Champion 2011" indeed Mr. Jones.  Tonight, UFC 128 delivered a QUALITY event with what I can only consider a beautiful main event, and hopefully the beginning of something special in mixed martial arts.  As usual with the Cageside Seats' post-fight throwdown, I'm going to dish out my thoughts on the event as a whole, individual fights, and everything in between.  Let's kick it off with the main event.

  • Jon Jones crushed Mauricio Rua.  Let's not sugar coat it people, Shogun made a handful of offensive progress throughout the fight, while Jones  was aggressive from bell to bell.  Outside of Brock Lesnar's title loss to Cain Velasquez, this is one of the most devastating title losses in a very long time.  To say the title was taken from Shogun is an understatement.  Jones ripped the title from Shogun's waist, and beat him over the head with it.
  • Jones looked slick on his feet, sure, not perfect by any means, but I expected more shots from the outside.  Of course, that's most likely what Shogun was expecting as well.  The handful of punches to the body that Jones threw were beautiful, including the left hook that dropped Shogun and won the fight.
  • So a quick question.  Will Jones hold this title for an extended period of time?  Personally, I believe so.  I believe he'll become the Georges St. Pierre or Anderson Silva of light heavyweight.  He crushed Shogun like THIS, on short notice.  I think he can be more than prepared for any other light heavyweight on the planet if he has a full training camp.
  • So, Rashad Evans decided to go with the title shot.  This is a money move for all people involved.  If you heard the crowd's reaction to Evans, you know exactly what I mean.  People will eat this fight up, and honestly, I think it's a showcase fight for Jones.  Not only is there money to be made, this is a great fight to build up Jones as a title holder.  If people buy into the hype, and Jones pulls off a win, that will increase his value even more.
  • Last, where will Shogun go from here?  Honestly, he looked so bad compared to when he fought Lyoto Machida, it's sad.  Where in the Machida fight, he was able to explode in and out, belting off lightning strikes like nothing with great timing...he was slow, and got winded quickly.  I'm the last person who's going to make excuses for Shogun, but it doesn't take much to see how Shogun has deteriorated.  I hope he can rebound, but his pinnacle may have been reached when he took the title from Machida.
Many, many more thoughts after the jump.

Star-divide

  • In the co-main event, Eddie Wineland made Urijah Faber look horribly average.  Wineland was supposed to be a showcase fight for Faber, and it turned out that Faber had a hard time imposing his game on him.  
  • That said, Faber adapted and overcame, and by round three, he really began to take it to Wineland.
  • If Faber really does get a shot at bantamweight champ Dominick Cruz, I'm not sure I favor him in that match...Cruz has really begun to find himself as a fighter and has become increasingly formidable in the cage.
  • Hot damn did Jim Miller take the fight to Kamal Shalorus.  He was favored to win, and rightfully so, but his striking was on point.  If Shalorus' head wasn't hard as a rock, the fight would have been over with that head kick in round one.
  • Nate Marquardt also failed to shine in his showcase fight against late replacement Dan Miller.  He secured the victory, but considering the challenges that lay before him, that was a rare chance for him to show some real flare in the cage.
  • Okay, this has become a recurring theme.  Brendan Schaub, like Marquardt and Faber, was given a showcase fight, but took his time in getting the result he desired.  Mirko Filipovic put up one hell of a fight, more so than a great deal of people expected, but got completely flattened in the third round.  It was nasty, and I'll be plenty happy to see him A) Retire or B) Fight Big Nog at UFC Rio.
  • Not much to say about the Facebook prelims, they were free fights, so I'm pleased but the real story is in the Spike TV prelims.
  • The Spike TV UFC 128 prelims may be the best preliminary show in a long time.  Anthony Njokuani and Edson Barboza put on one of the most thrilling displays of striking the UFC has seen in a long time.  Where so many stand up wars become slap boxing, these two kept their technique at 100% for the full fifteen minutes of their fight. 
  • Oh, that spinning kick that won the third round for Barboza?  EPIC!
  • Don't forget, Luiz Cane also crushed Eliot Marshall, nothing wrong with a little can crushing to get the fans warmed up.
  • Overall, this was a great series of fights, and there's plenty to talk about as we move forward into 2011.  With UFC 129 on the horizon, and Zuffa's purchase of Strikeforce, we have a full plate of MMA topics to discuss.

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Hot damn did Dan Miller take the fight to Kamal Shalorus.

Jim, not Dan

by Matt D on Mar 20, 2011 1:42 AM EDT reply actions  

Damn those Miller brothers! Thanks for spotting that, I’m about to pass out but there’s so much to write. lol

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by Kaleb Kelchner on Mar 20, 2011 1:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

I never saw either Wineland or specially Dan Miller as showcase fights for Faber and Nate, both guys were legit challenges and I wasn’t surprised at all that neither guy had an easy time. The only real showcase fight was Schaub’s against Cro Cop who’s been living on borrowed time for years now in the UFC and tonight it finally all caught up with him.

Aside from that i’m looking forward to everyone counting out Rashad against Jones, because I think he’s the perfect guy to test what Bones is all about. Rashad has gotten past the delusions of wanting to be a striker and will use his speed, wrestling and knowledge of Jones to make this a real challenge not a one sided beatdown like tonight.

by Raker on Mar 20, 2011 4:38 AM EDT reply actions  

I didn’t care who won the main event & only picked Shogun because it looked like he was extra motivated from everybody counting him out but I didn’t expect what we saw last night, I’m still shocked by how bad Jones beat up Shogun. As for where Shogun goes next I think it’s easy a rematch with Rampage. Too bad they aren’t doing co-promotion with StrikeForce because they could also do a fight with Hendo

by The Legend on Mar 20, 2011 10:06 AM EDT reply actions  

So a quick question. Will Jones hold this title for an extended period of time?

As dominant as he looked against Shogun, after how the ‘Machida era’ panned out and looking at just how many title turn-arounds we’ve had since Chuck dropped the strap, I’m hesitant to crown anyone the division leader of 205 the way GSP and Anderson have conquered their respective weight classes. 205 is just a monster of a division.

Still, that’s not to say Bones doesn’t match up very well w/ the top contenders in his division. Maybe he will be “the guy”. And for some reason, I see a TUF coaching gig in his immediate future.

So, Rashad Evans decided to go with the title shot.

I have a feeling that there’s been a lot of backstage deals/threats/ultimatums concerning this on all sides. I wouldn’t be surprised if Rashad risked being blacklisted in the 205 title picture even if Jones lost based on Dana’s displeasure of Evans wanting to wait for Shogun (and for the record, I believe Rashad would have won last night if he hadn’t been injured). Now he might be back in Dana’s good graces. This is the first high-profile teammate vs. teammate (well, I guess now former teammates, all things considered) bout Dana’s been able to put together, going by my memory.

While everyone’s going to back Jones going into this one, I think Rashad could have matched up well against him. I believe he has the better grappling of the two. And I recall Rashad more or less calling the knee/TKO finish of the fight. But Rashad being the odd man out at Jackson’s gives Jones the clear strategic edge IMO. Even if Greg Jackson does stick to not coaching Jones against Evans (which I don’t entirely believe will happen) that’s not to say the other coaches and training partners won’t have anything to say to Jones about Rashad brings to the table.

BTW, has anything more been said about where Rashad will train for this fight?

Last, where will Shogun go from here?

I think it’s a long road back to the title, and that’s a journey I’m not sure yet if he’ll be able to complete again. Still, I wouldn’t entirely rule him out as a competitor the way Cro Cop has been. And there are still some entertaining, marketable fights available to him. I’d be surprised if rematches w/ Rampage and Forrest aren’t in the immediate plans for him.

by Hardcase on Mar 20, 2011 10:14 AM EDT reply actions  

Shogun

reached the pinnacle when he won Pride’s Middleweight tourney in 2005. Not when he beat Machida.
That Shogun is long gone. Too many injuries & surgeries. Doesn’t matter that he’s only 29. Everyone’s prime is different. His was when he was about 23.

by Bolo Yeung on Mar 22, 2011 3:33 AM EDT reply actions  

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