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On this date in WCW history: Hollywood Hulk Hogan vs Sting rematch on Nitro after the debacle at Starrcade 1997

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Yesterday we went over the main event of Starrcade 1997, which featured the most heavily hyped match-up in WCW history, as Hollywood Hulk Hogan took on Sting in a battle of good vs. evil, the leader of WCW vs. the leader of the nWo.

And after 15 minutes of an overbooked mess of a match, Sting was declared the winner by way of submission by Bret Hart, who wasn't actually the referee but took out the designated ref, Nick Patrick, because he supposedly tried to screw Sting with a fast count for Hogan, which wasn't actually fast. The entire thing was a disaster.

As it turned out, Hogan didn't want to do a clean job, so he used the creative control clause that was written into his contract to avoid laying down for a pinfall. It was ugly and unsatisfying for fans but at least Sting was the winner, right?

Not really.

The problem with the finish to the match at Starrcade was that it wasn't actually a finish. Pro wrestling is essentially storytelling that culminates in a match. There is, in theory, a beginning, a middle and an end. The beginning is the introduction of an issue between two parties, the middle is the hype to the eventual match, and the end of the story is the match itself.

But because Starrcade was booked the way it was, there wasn't a definitive end. That needed to be fleshed out and they attempted to do so the very next night (Dec. 29, 1997) on Monday Nitro on this date in WCW history.

But if you thought they were smart enough to dig themselves out of the hole they created, you were wrong. It actually got worse. Much, much worse.

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Hogan started things off by coming out with Eric Bischoff to cut a promo about how the result at Starrcade was wrong because Nick Patrick made the three count and called the match and that should have been that. Tony Schiavone, WCW's lead commentator at the time, reminded us that it was a fast count.

Even though it wasn't.

Nonetheless, the gist of the promo was that Hogan and Bischoff wanted J.J. Dillon, the on-screen authority figure, to make it right. "We're open to suggestions from WCW," Hogan proclaimed.

So Dillon waltzed out later and said the decision from Starrcade was going to stick and he was sick and tired of listening to Hogan and Bischoff "cry and complain and make excuses." He said he spoke with Sting in his dressing room and the best way to fix the controversy would be to have a rematch right there on Nitro.

Later on, Dillon came back out to say no one accepted the challenge, which naturally led to Bischoff coming out and doing just that. The match was on for later in the night. "It took 18 months to get it the first time, it didn't take long to get it tonight," Dillon told Mean Gene Okerlund.

Indeed, these idiots (I have to refer to them as this at this point) not only screwed up the storyline by not giving the feud its proper closing at the biggest pay-per-view in the history of the company, but they were actually going to give the rematch away for free the very next night on TNT.

And so they did:

Yes, you saw that right. The video cuts off early because the broadcast cut off early. Sting hits a Stinger splash in the corner and sends Hogan to the other side to hit one more and as he's doing so, he bumps the referee and Schiavone tells us they're out of time.

And Nitro goes off the air.

Imagine how many people across America were watching this and wanted to throw a brick through their TV. Bischoff, at that time, was big on teasing the audience with an angle to close each show that resulted in a sort of cliffhanger that gave fans a reason to tune in next week. That's fine in certain situations but you don't tease the result of the biggest rematch EVER.

It's mind numbing how stupid this was.

The story continued the next week but instead of waiting for each new day to post a story on it, I'll just tell the rest right here and now, like WCW should have done back then.

One week later, on Jan. 5, 1998, WCW came on the air showing the nWo pulling up to the Georgia Dome in Atlanta. Hogan got out of a limo without the world heavyweight championship, which gave away the fact that Sting was still the champ. They began the episode with J.J. Dillon telling us they were sorry for the broadcast going off the air early last week but they had "programming constraints."

Never fear, though, folks, the cameras were rolling and the footage showing the result of the match was captured in full. Unfortunately, it wouldn't be shown on this particular episode of Nitro because it was locked up in some bogus court order.

Sigh.

This was done for the sole purpose of getting over the new show WCW was debuting that coming Thursday night, WCW Thunder on TBS. At the beginning of that program, they would air the footage of the end of the Hogan vs. Sting rematch, in full, as well as some of the actual footage from Starrcade.

So, really, as a fan, you could have just skipped a few shows and not missed anything. The exact kind of backwards booking that slowly but surely killed WCW.

Now let's jump to Thunder on Jan. 8, 1998, and the conclusion of the match:

Not only did Hogan refuse to job to Sting at Starrcade, which is at least somewhat understandable considering the stakes and circumstances, he refused to job clean the next night on Nitro and they overbooked the finish even worse than the first match.

So now we've had two matches in two nights with no clear winner in either match. Both men have legit (storyline) claims to having won each match. Hogan, of course, has a far better case because of the original fast count that wasn't a fast count by Nick Patrick. Funny how he always seems to come off looking as good as possible in these situations.

This all resulted in J.J. Dillon again trotting himself out to the ring to make a decision on behalf of the WCW Executive Committee regarding the status of the world heavyweight championship. He called both Hogan and Sting down to the ring to announce the decision. And what did they decide to do?

They vacated the title. Dillon told Sting he needed him to hand over the belt because it was being held up.

So after a year and a half of build to a match between the biggest heel in the business at the time, Hogan, and the biggest babyface at the time, Sting, the two had a match at one of the biggest pay-per-views of all time that had a smoz finish only to rematch on Nitro that ended early but was later shown to have a smoz finish, as well, and the title was eventually vacated.

That was the payoff to one of the greatest feuds ever. Unbelievable.

The one thing they did right here was used this situation, dumb as it was, to have Sting speak for the first time on microphone by telling Dillon he "had no guts" and telling Hogan "you're a dead man." Of course, even that was a tad anticlimactic, considering Sting had done some talking that was picked up by the cameras at the end of the Starrcade broadcast. Still, this was a big deal at the time.

But by then, the damage was done. The angle was blown and the story didn't matter anymore because it was clear it would never have a definitive end. If there was ever a time to bring this program to its logical conclusion, it was at Starrcade, and for various reasons, that just didn't happen. Everything after was just overkill. It was all we, as fans, needed to see to know that we were being toyed with by greedy men who cared only for themselves and their own status in the business. What made sense didn't matter. What made money didn't even matter.

Ego mattered.

Sting didn't finally defeat Hogan for good until SuperBrawl on Feb. 22, 1998. Even then, he did so only after a ref bump allowed Randy Savage to attack Hogan and further the dissension within the nWo. By then, the focus had shifted away from Sting and to the fact that Savage had turned on Hogan and Kevin Nash was close to doing the same. It wasn't long after that Nash broke out completely and created the nWo Wolfpac.

The moral of the story, again, is that greed will eventually imprison us all and Hogan was the greediest of the greedy. So was Nash, and because they were so good at playing politics in the back, everyone else got buried underneath them sooner or later. Bischoff let it happen because he was a mark for the two of them but also because the nWo was his baby, his one big claim to fame. He never wanted to let it go.

By April of 1998, WWE had caught up to WCW. Fans like myself were sick of getting jerked around with overbooked matches that never had a definitive result. You can only do that so many times with so many big matches before the entire house of cards comes tumbling down. Stone Cold Steve Austin won the WWE championship at WrestleMania 14 and captured the attention of those who had previously been enamored with the nWo. It wasn't long before WCW was doing increasingly desperate things to continue competing with WWE, like putting the world title on Bill Goldberg on free TV just to pop a big rating. Even Hogan, who agreed to job clean in that match, could see the writing on the wall.

If only he had agreed to job clean to Sting six months prior at Starrcade. Then most of this mess could have been avoided.

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lol

in the finish of that match, one of the commentators goes “This is WCW at its best”

umm, yeah…

by hfl2013 on Dec 29, 2011 10:15 AM EST reply actions  

I remember thanking

this was trouble for wcw

He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were

by Elstriko on Dec 29, 2011 10:18 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

And you were right.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

thus was

about the time that raw started doing the 5 or 6 minute overruns. I remember flipping back and forth. and thinking Vincent of doing some smark bis with the overrun

He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were

by Elstriko on Dec 29, 2011 2:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Wow, great account. Who knows what could have been had things been different.

by cyke on Dec 29, 2011 10:35 AM EST reply actions  

I truly believe WCW would have screwed it all up eventually anyway

but things definitely would have been a lot different if they didn’t botch this whole thing.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly the biggest shock

Is that Bischoff was patient enough to let the angle build for so long in the first place.

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by Billy Gomila on Dec 29, 2011 6:01 PM EST up reply actions  

Im still an NWO mark till this day and things could have been better. But you’re right, they would probably have messed it up.

by cyke on Dec 30, 2011 9:34 AM EST up reply actions  

Thanks for reading, as always.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 1:00 PM EST up reply actions  

As long as you recap things like this, you’re gonna get people to read. The part that made it all wasn’t what went down so many years ago, its the emotion you put into it. That always makes things interesting.

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 1:01 PM EST up reply actions  

That's really always been my goal with Cageside since I came over.

Sometimes it goes over well, other times I get lit up by folks who disagree and think I’m an idiot. Good with the bad, I guess.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 1:05 PM EST up reply actions  

When you use emotion as a tool, you are going to not only illicit responses that share your emotions, but also emotions across the spectrum. When people are doggin’ you out.. just remember, you pulled the emotion out of them. So, you accomplished what you set out to do.

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 1:49 PM EST up reply actions  

Didn’t all monday Nitros end the same way.

Trash flying everywhere and Schiavone screaming “WE ARE OUT OF TIME”

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by IRodC on Dec 29, 2011 12:42 PM EST reply actions  

A lot of them did

and like I said, that was cool for the most part, but don’t dick around your audience with a world title rematch when you already dicked them around at the pay-per-view they paid a bunch of money for.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

They sure did, but...

Most of the time it was when nWo was brawling with WCW guys. I remember asking myself back then as to why WWE didn’t do this on some Raws? I thought it was pretty cool to see a gang of guys brawling and have the show end in the midst of it.

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by TheHeat on Dec 29, 2011 7:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I can’t wait to see what you guys put up for Jan. 4th. That was such a big night in 1999. Not only was there the fingerpoke of doom, but Foley’s title win and the infamous “that’ll put butts in seats” call by Shiavone.

I’m pretty sure it was Jan. 4th 1999. If I’m wrong please correct me.

by StrongStyle81 on Dec 29, 2011 12:46 PM EST reply actions  

Yeah

that day will probably get a bigger history post, too.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 12:57 PM EST up reply actions  

That fingerpoke.. I actually quit watching wrestling right around that time. I wasn’t mad, I just lost interest. I didn’t tune into WWe either. I can’t remember what or who I was doin’ at the time. I was more than likely tippin’ n sippin’..

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 1:03 PM EST up reply actions  

Not only is Santa not real

But neither is the Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, and any chance you had with that girl who sits next to you in History.

So go forth, my brethren, and proceed to mark the f*ck out

by C. J. Bradford on Dec 29, 2011 12:47 PM EST reply actions  

Actually

I totally scored with the hot chick that sat next to me in History. That short relationship ended in a blaze of fail but whatever.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

As Ant Banks said “hit, split, quit, and forget it”

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 12:58 PM EST up reply actions  

Amen.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

We need a delete button or can you remove that one up there.. its just an eye sore up in here.

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 1:04 PM EST up reply actions  

If I deleted it

it would delete the comments underneath it in reply to it.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 1:28 PM EST up reply actions  

DAMN IT… “hit it, split it, quit it, and forget it”

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 12:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Haha they always do

Thats why we always go back. Nothing like a good train wreck.

So go forth, my brethren, and proceed to mark the f*ck out

by C. J. Bradford on Dec 29, 2011 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

With Goldberg winning the title

we all know what happened at Starrcade 1998 (something that this website put on a couple a days ago),which led to what happened a week later on the first Nitro on 1999,which pretty told of story of who was gonna have the upper hand in that year (WWF) and pretty much every year until WCW went under.

by Curtis2012 on Dec 29, 2011 12:55 PM EST reply actions  

That was also a complete abomination

but I missed the window on doing a big post on that.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Dec 29, 2011 12:56 PM EST up reply actions  

In retrospect.

I always attributed the real decline to WcW as being the way they ended Goldberg. I knew there was no way in the modern world that Goldberg could stay as champ & beat everyone. Eventually it would wear thin w/ the number of tv shows & PPVs yearly. I thought they should have done a major injury angle. Let him sit at home for at least 6months.. then, make him come out & start at the bottom of the mid-card by a heel GM/Exec. Stretch it out & also build up the main champ who won the title in a bad ass tourney. Have them collide at Starrcade & bring down the house. In my mind, that would have lead to the biggest PPV# ever.. I was probably just being a mark though, because I was uber huge on him.

But, the way you tell the story.. I can see how that match up even surpassed Flair/Hogan 92 as the crappiest way to do the biggest feud of all time.

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 12:57 PM EST reply actions  

One thing I cannot stand with ROH..

Final Battle.. Richards / Edwards III… all the moves.. and it ends with a freakin’ tornado kick. Why didn’t they just use a small package. What I love.. Steen is going to be an awesome champ. Best heel in the biz.

by Rawuncutnxrated on Dec 29, 2011 1:32 PM EST reply actions  

Ouch is all I can say

Glad I didn’t really watch/care about WCW

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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Dec 29, 2011 3:00 PM EST reply actions  

Good stuff

Never realized we had Hogan to blame for Thunder too.

Gillberg...Gillberg...Gillberg...

by GoForthAndDie on Dec 29, 2011 3:18 PM EST reply actions  

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