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Triple H talks 'unique relationship' with The Rock: There's still professional tension and weirdness there

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Now that The Rock has come back to WWE and will play a major role in the company's plans over the next six months, there's been a sort of venting period with the superstars of the promotion.

CM Punk made his feelings clear when he said "it would have nice if he would have said hello." Randy Orton, initially lukewarm to the idea of Rock returing, has since "gotten over the bitterness" of him being back and is now excited for WrestleMania 28 next year, where Rock will take on John Cena.

But perhaps the most interesting opinion to hear in matters pertaining to "The Great One" is that of Triple H. "The Game" recently did a radio interview with Greg and the Morning Buzz and talked about what he called his "unique relationship" with Rock:

"Rock and I have a unique relationship and I think it's unique to anybody else in the company, he and I were kind of like coming up at the exact same time. And we were always kind of like the yin and yang to each other. ... They brought him up as the squeaky clean babyface, I was the bad guy. Then it switched, I was in DX and he was in the Nation. He was the bad guy, I was the good guy. We wrestled at that, it was over the Intercontinental title and then the roles reversed again and then I became like the biggest heel in the business, he became the biggest babyface in the business and we wrestled over the world title. There's always been that kind of ... um ... you know, listen, I was there, it was Rock and I that Vince came to and said, 'Hey, I'd like you guys to sign with William Morris and think about going and making some movies in Hollywood.' He brought us both in at the same time and said, 'You guys are two guys that can do it, I'd like you to move forward.' Rock was like, 'Awesome' and I shook my head and was like, 'What, you don't want me to wrestle anymore? I don't get it.' So there's always that, we've always had that... we get along fine and we're friendly with each other and we're buds in that sense. I've never been out to dinner with him, we don't hang out, but there's always been that professional like... we had such a professional rivalry with each other but we also knew in the ring we were magic with each other so it worked but yet there was always that like, no matter what he did, I was always like, 'Screw him, I'm doing something better than that.' We've never had a cross word with each other, we've never had a strain in any relationship form with each other or anything like that but also, we're not best buds and there's also that little bit of professional tension between us, but I think it's a good thing. Even now, he comes back now and he's a big Hollywood star but I'm also an executive in the company. You know what I mean, there's still that little bit of a weirdness there, you know?"

That's a fascinating look into Triple H's psyche, namely the fact that it's so painfully obvious he still harbors a certain level of resentment towards The Rock for accomplishing more in his career than "Trips" was able to, despite his extensive list of accomplishments.

Indeed, you can trace this all the way back to the beginning of Rock's career with WWE.

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He was immediately brought in and given a gigantic babyface push that was so blatant and over the top, the fans turned on him as voraciously as any superstar before him. Triple H, on the other hand, had to attach himself to the notorious backstage political power players, The Kliq, to help achieve his status within the company and get the big money matches he so desired.

In fact, as Bret Hart pointed out in his autobiography, Triple H and Shawn Michaels apparently tried to completely bury The Rock in his younger days for "supposedly not wanting to job, for not selling and for stealing their spots," none of which were true. Hart goes on to say they "disliked Rocky intensely and were too myopic to see he was destined to become one of the all-time greatest megastars in the history of the business."

And that's part of the problem and ultimately why Triple H wanted to snuff The Rock out before he could ever reach the unbelievable heights he eventually would. Begrudgingly, though, "The Game" has to admit that Rock attaining mega-babyface status was actually the best possible scenario for his career, as it gave him a top babyface foil to him when he reached mega-heel status around late 1999 to early 2000. The business WWE did in 2000 with The Rock and Triple H feuding over the world title hit levels the company likely won't ever see again. And they managed to do this while Stone Cold Steve Austin, possibly the hottest babyface of all time, was out with his neck injury.

Again, this still doesn't sit well with Triple H, mainly because the general consensus amongst fans, both casual and hardcore, is that Rock overshadowed "Trips" during that time and, to this day, still does. After all, Triple H effectively retired before returning this year for what should have been a monumental match-up against CM Punk but fell flat and had little effect on the numbers at the box office. The Rock, on the other hand, comes waltzing back to WWE for a match at Survivor Series and the buzz created by that was enough to hit mainstream outlets worldwide.

Thorn meet side ... again.

That's probably why Triple H feels the need to make note of such things like Vince McMahon approaching both he and Rock with the offer to do movies, which Rock obviously accepted and has prospered with while Triple H brushed it off in favor of maintaining his status in the business. In effect, it's the same line John Cena has been using on TV for the past few months, except it carries a lot more weight. Essentially, Triple H wants you to know he stayed and maintained his credibility in the pro wrestling world while The Rock left you high and dry to make movies.

And really, that's all "The Game" has left. Back in 2003 when The Rock and Stone Cold left for good, Triple H was the guy to take over at the top, as evidenced by how he utterly dominated the main event scene for the entirety of that year. But he did so to flat crowds, decreasing interest and dwindling ratings, with numbers steadily declining week after week until the wrestling boom period, starting somewhere around 1996, was declared dead. And this happened on Triple H's watch with no one else to point the finger at, though he repeatedly did so anyway, snuffing out the WWE careers of guys like Scott Steiner and Bill Goldberg.

The one man he could never do that with, though, is back and has once again made Triple H an afterthought. And if you're wondering why an injury angle was booked that took "The Game" off TV until The Rock came back and settled his business at Survivor Series before leaving again, well, you've got your answer.

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Who cares about Fast Five

when you can star in The Chaperone?

by 3r1c on Nov 23, 2011 2:46 PM EST reply actions  

Is this a surprise to anybody?

Trips was bitchin about the Ultimate Warrior for one match like five years later (not that he’s alone in complaining about the Warrior, but at a certain point you just look like a sore loser in a fake sport), and lets face it the Rock is the only real other big name of the error that got over on him. He never really had the big showdown feud with Austin despite the whole “had him run over with a car” angle, and he never had to go against Brock Lesnar either. Nevermind that he made sure to embarrass Goldberg as much as possible before losing to him, too.

Writer (and a handsome one at that),
And the Valley Shook

by Billy Gomila on Nov 23, 2011 2:50 PM EST reply actions  

The same

“run him over with a car” angle that HHH hijacked from Rikishi (and the Rock).

Who wants to save the world? That's what misers do...

by theloupgaroukid on Nov 23, 2011 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

It's hard to believe Vince McMahon once used connections with actual filmmakers for this movie business.

It was a much better idea than this nonsense with WWE films. Hell, Blade III, the movie Triple H eventually got a part in, is probably better than any movie ever made by WWE Films.

by *Asterisk* on Nov 23, 2011 2:52 PM EST reply actions  

2 THINGS....

While I believe there is a measure of truth to the slant reported here a few points give me pause

1 – Brett Hart should never be the be all/end all word of credible backstage reporting. I like Brett but time and time again he’s demonstrated to be just a revisionist history prima donna. I admire the guy but he’s a mark. In fact, had the Wrestling Gods been more proactive, Helen & Stu should have named him MARK HART. And this is from a Brett Hart fan…

2 – Goldberg didn’t thrive in the WWE because they were not interested in protecting and pampering a 1-dimensional cry baby such as himself and GOOD FOR THEM. It would have been the birth of Hogan 2.0 all over again. Steiner was not the magic with a more talented set of wrestlers to work with and bringing him in reeked of desperation. Only TNA fans dig Steiner because of the crazy shit he says. When was the last time he worked a match you remember as memorable? That match was in, like, 1995 if we were to be honest with ourselves. A myriad of circumstances undermined these two men, not just HHH soley.

by Patrick Eakin on Nov 23, 2011 3:04 PM EST reply actions  

please check yourself

Hogan was a two-dimensional crybaby. Sheesh, get your facts straight dude.

It is not enough to succeed. Others must fail.

by Jesse Holland on Nov 23, 2011 3:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay.

1 — Did you ignore the words “apparently” and “supposedly?”

2 — Exactly. Triple H wasn’t interested in letting him gain any steam. And so what if he was a one-dimensional crybaby. I don’t care if you’re a no-dimensional crybaby, if you’re good for business, you’re good for business.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Nov 23, 2011 3:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Goldberg may have been good for business for a while and one-dimensional as he was there was no excuse for costing him the Elimination Chamber match. Steiner, though – to quote Buddy Rich – was sucking all over the place. He got more boos in their first PPV match than any up-and-coming heel could hope for – and he was the face.

This is a funny piece on Trips’ burials -

http://www.thewrestlingfan.com/writerscourthhh.html

by bensix on Nov 23, 2011 5:05 PM EST up reply actions  

HHH as momentum killer

is nothing new. He killed Jericho’s Undisputed Title reign after Rock and Austin put him over on the same night, the aforementioned burials of Goldberg (who Rock jobbed to in the center of the ring) and Steiner, and squashing the Hurricane after the Rock had literally spent the previous month putting him over on Raw (WAR Hamburgler and Grimace!)

 It IS fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics of guys like HHH and Cena claiming that they could’ve been like the Rock but chose to stay instead. There is a mountain of WWE Films straight to video dvds clogging a landfill that state otherwise.

Who wants to save the world? That's what misers do...

by theloupgaroukid on Nov 23, 2011 5:38 PM EST up reply actions  

It IS fascinating to watch the mental gymnastics of guys like HHH and Cena claiming that they could’ve been like the Rock but chose to stay instead. There is a mountain of WWE Films straight to video dvds clogging a landfill that state otherwise.

So true…so true.

Hey, I'll take it from here because you obviously don't know what you're doing... Lie down now, rest, and we'll talk about this when you regain your senses. --The Knockout Mechanism.

by battlestar on Nov 23, 2011 5:45 PM EST up reply actions  

oh really?

So true?? really is that true?

HHH & cena are in the ring every week busting their ass through years of injuries…. & Where is Dwayne exactly??

by rako on Nov 25, 2011 2:59 PM EST up reply actions  

Haters gonna hate!

Someone should do a list of all the wrestlers Rock put over. It would probably be just as long an HHH burial list.

by Mr. Sunny Days on Nov 23, 2011 6:34 PM EST up reply actions  

Excellent point I thank major said it best. Rock was the go to guy to get a newcomer over. That’s half the reason I like the guy, sure at some points he.was doing the superock thing and beating 2 or 3 ppl atonce, but he would also let the guys go over clean. That’s good business. Ole H³ would be handy with a shovel as soon as there programme with Da rock was over

He knows the guy with the bandage on his ass is going no were. Were you going fucking no were

by Elstriko on Nov 23, 2011 7:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Weirdness as in

H tried to kill him off and Rock, to his dismay, became an icon with a status that will be legendary beyond his own?

God is fake, guns are good, and people are crazy.

by *Californication* on Nov 23, 2011 6:28 PM EST reply actions  

Bingo.

Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.

by Geno Mrosko on Nov 23, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean it’s not The Rock’s fault he’s more over with fans than anyone in the company despite rarely being around for the better part of a decade.

Insecurity is a bitch.

I do find it funny though that half of my memories of The Rock are him losing cleanly to guys. What a selfish son of a bitch!

by TMadeBurner on Nov 23, 2011 10:45 PM EST reply actions  

He just feels insecure to Rock... always has, always will...

I think he hated the fact that Rock has been jobbing to him for the majority of all their feuds, but Rock still has the people behind him.

I believe he is even responsible for making Rock be the first Royal Rumble winner to not get a one-on-one title match at Wrestlemania.

by Man from Manila on Nov 23, 2011 11:41 PM EST reply actions  

Rock recognized

that he was so over it didn’t matter if he won, or if he held titles, but the style with which he did it.

 Also, not that I can find documentation to back this up, but the gossip was that Trips held it against Rock for “taking his spot” while HHH got backburnered as punishment for the Kliq ‘Curtain Call’ at MSG… and we know how well Hunter processes resentment…

Who wants to save the world? That's what misers do...

by theloupgaroukid on Nov 24, 2011 12:47 AM EST up reply actions  

I think it is safe to say that at this point...

every time Rock would make a live appearance, EMTs should start checking if Trips has a pulse because I bet he hates it that Rock is more over than him, even though he made the audience hate the whole roster and love him during the walk out angle.

by Man from Manila on Nov 24, 2011 12:58 AM EST up reply actions  

You know, I always wondered if this particular promo, which i marked out at btw when I first saw it as even back then I was an internet smark, struck home for Trips. There were other promos where the line between kayfabe and shoot did blur between the two (though back in those days, like these days, sometimes it was hard as they deliberately liked to obscure it. I think, now, that while it may have not been meant to anger HHH or put him down it was indicative of how the Rock felt to Trips then. It doesn’t help that Trips seems like the kind of guy who wouldn’t forgive an forget.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OqnEIiPtOJ4

“The Rock says they didn’t keep you at the bottom of the barrel just because you wanted to say good bye to your roody poo friends at Madison Square Garden. No! The Rock said they kept you at the bottom of the barrel BECAUSE YOU ABSOLUTELY SUCK!”

by NikhilBaliga on Nov 24, 2011 12:57 AM EST reply actions  

I love the rock

Just wantd to say it, no matter its homo or not.

by Lucdulatif on Nov 24, 2011 1:56 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

This article is idiotic

This is completely idiotic.

The real reason why HHH was written off tv is coz Vince Mcmahon thought Rock,cena Vs awesome truth was big enough draw to carry survivor series PPV to a big buyrate.

But the very next PPV TLC had no real draw. Punk vs del rio for the WWE championship wasnt big enough draw & cena is gonna be in a filler feud with miz or someone else. so vince decided Nash vs hhh would happen at TLC instead of Survivor series.

For those people saying The Rock is a bigger star.. blah blah blah … let me tell you this. If the rock stayed in the WWE for all these years & cut the same old fruity pebble & lady parts promo on every superstar through the years, he would have been booed just as bad as cena today.

& this has to be the most idiotic thing i have read -

And really, that’s all “The Game” has left. Back in 2003 when The Rock and Stone Cold left for good, Triple H was the guy to take over at the top, as evidenced by how he utterly dominated the main event scene for the entirety of that year. But he did so to flat crowds, decreasing interest and dwindling ratings, with numbers steadily declining week after week until the wrestling boom period, starting somewhere around 1996, was declared dead.

how can you blame HHH for the declining ratings & buyrates?? how may stars did austin make before he walked out of the company??
Think about How much austin & the rock were promoted in the attitude era compared to HHH? But in the end HHH was the one who stayed to carry the WWE.

Austin & the rock should given back to the company that made them stars, but instead HHH is the one jobbing every wrestlemania creating the next generation stars.

I always find it so funny that the guy who works his ass off every week through years of injuries becomes the most hated darklord on the internet but the guys who walk out, not caring about the WWE or their fans become the most beloved IWC gods. How crazy the world is!!!

And about goldberg, apparently you guys dont know what actually happened at that time -

After Bad Blood 2003, the planned main event for SummerSlam 2003 was Goldberg and Hunter, but Hunter tore his groin muscle in a match against Goldberg in a house show. Subsequently, it lead to the Elimination Chamber at SummerSlam 2003 because Triple H was unable to wrestle and it would suck for WWE and Goldberg, if Hunter just relinquished the title. That is the reason, Goldberg/Hunter was moved to Unforgiven instead.

and BTW, The rock has said Numerous times in radio interviews that him & hhh had some heat until 1998, but by early 1999 they were really close & working their ass off to get to the top.

by rako on Nov 25, 2011 2:57 PM EST reply actions  

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