Triple H: CM Punk does look like the short order cook at Waffle House
by Geno Mrosko on Oct 7, 2011 1:32 PM EDT
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In an article in WWE Magazine recently (via Wrestling Observer), Triple H talked about the recent ongoing debate he's had with CM Punk regarding what and who does and doesn't draw in professional wrestling.
It's a fascinating look into "The Game's" mindset ... and it's also alarming.
Trips seems to think just like Vince McMahon before him -- that little guys don't draw money because fans don't give a crap about little guys who can wrestle. They want larger than life characters.
Here's what he said:
"People don't pay just to see wrestlers. They pay to see stars, larger-than-life athletes, heroes and villains. Stuff they can't see in their own backyard. Punk misses the boat on Kevin Nash, and I'm not saying this to side with my friend, but Punk does look like the short order cook at Waffle house."
"I like Waffle House too, but I'm not sure I want to watch the cook. You can be the greatest at what you do. There has been a lot of phenomenal wrestlers. Ricky Steamboat was one of the best ever. But if he wasn't in a match with Ric Flair, tell me what else he headlined? And this isn't a knock on Ricky, he's phenomenal. Punk's mentality is `Do what I like.' He likes legit, technically gifted, skilled wrestlers. The fact is, I do too, I agree with what he's saying. Is John Cena the best technical wrestler? Absolutely not. Neither was Hogan, neither was Austin, neither was Mick Foley, neither was The Rock, neither was I.
"Make me a list of technical wrestlers who were huge stars, and I'll make you a list of terrible wrestlers who were huge stars. I guarantee my list is a mile longer than yours. But who am I to say for the 90 percent of the WWE Universe, who don't give a crap about that and like Cena, that they're wrong and they should change, and be force fed something they don't want? When I grew up, I hated Hogan. I thought he was terrible and didn't like to watch him. I was like Punk in a way. I liked the Steamboats and Flairs and the ones that could go. Would I be right in saying that Hogan was the wrong guy to go with, and they should've changed directions and gone with Steamboat because he was the better wrestler? Ludicrous."
While he makes a somewhat sound argument in regards to who has and hasn't drawn big money in the past and how that wasn't based on their skills inside the ring (I'm looking at you Hulk Hogan), there are some serious issues with what he's saying here.
For starters, he outright admits his mentality that smaller guys who look like Punk (read: skinny fat asses), aren't main event level players that will ever draw big. Which, of course, we know is a load of crap seeing as Punk's merchandise is selling on the level of John Cena, the biggest star in the company.
Speaking of which, where the hell does he get that 90-percent number? There is no way he honestly believes 90-percent of the WWE fan base likes Cena. That's just not true and trying to pass it off as such means he's totally out of touch with the fans of the product he has so much to do with week in and week out. If half the crowd is cheering and half the crowd is booing, how does he come up with 90-percent?
The comments about Steamboat largely ring true, although he drew when he was in his younger days and as he progressed and got older, he needed a bigger star to piggyback on. Which is fine, there are plenty of guys like that. And great technical wrestlers certainly have their place in the business.
Stone Cold Steve Austin wasn't the best technical wrestler, that's fair to say. But it almost feels like selling him short. Before he was "The Rattlesnake," who mastered the "new main event style" adopted by WWE during the Attitude Era, he was "The Hollywood Blonde" and "Stunning" Steve, an outstanding worker with WCW. His breaking his neck greatly affected everything about his style and how he worked inside the ring.
The big takeaway here is we get a good idea of what to expect going forward. As Triple H gains more and more power within the company, we can expect more and more of guys like Kevin Nash. Larger than life and can't wrestle his way out of a paper bag.
Thoughts?
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CM Punk IS a larger than life character. That is what is making him sell as much merchandise as Cena. Being a good worker is a bonus in this case. Technical wrestlers need to develop a character to be a big star in the company but big guys don’t need to be good wrestlers to be a star. It’s a sad reality but with their audience focus being a simpler good vs. evil approach, wrestlers like CM Punk who are in a gray area (supposed to be the heel but adored by a lot of fans) doesn’t fit in with the simple approach they want to focus on. IMHO
yeah he lost me at the 90% percent comment
well actually he never really had me, but that comment put it over the top for me. This pretty much insures that when Vince dies or leaves or whatever, nothing’s going to change.
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There were plenty of guys that weren’t jakked to the hills that drew money in top spots, Tully Blanchard, Jerry Lawler,Harley Race, Dick Slater, Ted DiBiase, more current stars such as Steve Austin, these were workers that through proper promoting the fans were emotionally invested in and didn’t need to get jakked to thrive in the business. WWE has conditioned its fans through their methods of promoting to buy into the steroids monsters and overlook that they can’t walk and chew gum at the same time and god forbid put together a coherent word or two.
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by matz57 on Oct 7, 2011 1:56 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Austin may not have been a monster, but he was not small either.
HHH was actually objective here, and hard to disagree with for me.
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by *Californication* on Oct 7, 2011 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions
Problem is not HHH, but rather a way of doing business, or a culture that’s been in effect since the 80’s that I doubt will ever change. CM Punk’s push could be explained away by saying “Hey we tried something different, but we’re no better off now than we were before” rather than using the down turn in the economy as an oppurtunity to get behind the talent and create new stars with positive upsides. Pushing a Mason Ryan or Brodis Clay despite their being unworthy of such a push is a clear enough indicator of that “Big Man” mindset not nudging at the expense of talent all to eager to step up with the right promotional backing behind them such as Daniel Bryan, Matt Sydal and the like.
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by matz57 on Oct 7, 2011 2:59 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don't like this Brotus Clay hate
Hate on Mason Ryan if you want, but Brotus Clay at least has legit mic skills to go with his look. And since he’s barely wrestled in the WWE, I don’t see why he should be grouped with guys like Mason Ryan who are nothing more than a look with a few moves right now.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
Mason Ryan looks so anatomically disproportionate it's scary
His neck muscles have muscles.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 7:00 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I think he's got the Batista look down perfectly
Tons of muscle, looks like an absolute beast, but also doesn’t have veins popping out of everything.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
Batista looked taller, or was not as squat, or something
They better inject Ryan with some personality real quick, too, if they want to actually push him.
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions
he has beome a freak especiallyafter his return!!
and please somebody tell him to get rid of ..whatever hairstyle he has going
Its the
“I’m not Batista” hairstyle.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
That sure sounds like “Vanilla Midgets” drug out across a lot of B.S. to me.
by mariobatalivsmarkhenry on Oct 7, 2011 2:09 PM EDT reply actions
Let's keep in mind that this "interview" was in WWE Magazine.
They’re not there for great journalism, they’re there to promote storylines.
thanks for pointing out that it was in WWE Mag
I completely missed that reading through the first time and now I’ll definitely take what he said with a grain of salt.
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Is this a serious interview, or is this in context of the "schism" that is being played out in the WWE storyline right now?
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 2:44 PM EDT reply actions
it was in WWE magazine
so I’m leaning more towards it being in the context of the “schism”
Coach Raye crazy man. Says Yahoo in our training camp,We Didn’t know we had Wifi,cOach Sing says he likes UpGut.com. Bish! - Anthony Dixon
Well
considering the entire storyline was built on it being a shoot and everyone talking about how they really feel, his comments are definitely worth noting as much more than simple storyline advancement. This is legitimately how he feels … and that kind of sucks but I can also understand his position.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
good point
considering the entire storyline was built on it being a shoot and everyone talking about how they really feel, his comments are definitely worth noting as much more than simple storyline advancement
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This might be how he legitimately feels, that the big guys will draw more
but since this was in WWE magazine, I have a feeling that this is not how he is doing business right now. If I had to guess, I think Triple H is very open to the idea of him being wrong and the WWE is trying to give the other guys more of a legit chance. Just look at how they’ve done business recently. Daniel Bryan won MiTB, Punk has been in every main event, Evan Bourne is one of the tag champs (and don’t forget Swagger jobbing to him for a while), the Sin Caras are getting pushes they really haven’t earned yet, and Cody Rhodes is the first Intercontinental Champion to matter in a long time.
So yeah, maybe Triple H is still of the mindset that only big guys draw, but the WWE is not just throwing big guys out there and pushing them to the moon just because. The guys that are there deserve it or will prove otherwise.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
irrespective of the credibility of the interview..
if you look at it, cena’s merchandise makes about as much money as austin’s or the rock’s did (or thats what i read somewhere). WWF was losing the ratings wars but they were nailing WCW on the merchandise, and after that merchandise sales have always been a very vital factor. Vince Mcmahon may be a a heap of cow dung, but he is a heap of cow dung that knows how to make money. Im pretty sure trips has learnt from him. Punk is phenomenal, but Money in the Bank HIS break through event did about 180,000 buys- better than before but by 20,000 or so.
I do not agree with trips usually but all i know is that if somebody knows how to make money in pro wrestling then its Vinny Mac (not Dixie). Will Punk make a great champ, im sure he will and he already has actually, but will he make them as much mony as Cena, that is anybody’s guess. And anyways, for most of us who love punk, PPVs are not the source we choose to view matches, so we do not really matter to the E
I don’t think Hogan was a terrible wrestler, at least during his prime and when he was motivated after he grew older. He developed a highly effective pat match that delivered what his fans wanted to see, so I think calling him terrible is going a bit too far.
Hogan was a terrible wrestler
But you’re right in that he gave the fans what they wanted to see, and in the end, that’s what matters for a wrestler.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
if you cal John cena bad..
then Hogan certainly was…he had his own 5 moves of doom thing going..and frankly i haven’t seen him do a match that i would say was an incredible wrestling match..
Here's the thing
You can’t take this seriously as HHH’s true views because it’s a WWE magazine interview. You also can’t dismiss them as simply being storyline. That they are using social media to advance a blurred line between kayfabe, and shoot complicates things further in terms of taking them to heart. I would imagine that the reports of Punk’s recent extraordinary merch sales numbers that, regardless of HHH’s views, Punk’s recent de-emphasis will not last. If they are the son-in-law’s true views, they really miss what is most essential for WWE to realize going forward. The only reason generations past have viewed wrestlers in a certain mold is because there wasn’t a more popular form of combat themed entertainment to explode the myth that wrestlers have to learn a certain way. With the popularity of MMA, fans realize you can be 215 pounds, and be a complete badass, who should be feared. In fact, I would say the flip of the old school way of viewing this issue is now more true in the minds of the viewers. In that, the Great Khali, Big Show, Kane, etc, are harder to buy as actually being a true threat to somebody half their size who knows their stuff. This is the prism through which the UFC generation by-and-large views the product, its presentation, and the booking decisions those in charge make. In this respect, Punk is completely right in his critique that the old ways of viewing the business are threatening its money making potential.
People in this thread need to stop mixing every big guy up
There’s the big guys that can’t wrestle at all with no mic skills and are there simply because of their size. The Great Khali is a perfect example of this. Then you have the guys that can’t wrestle but at least have some mic skills. Kevin Nash is a great example of this. Then you have guys like The Big Show, Kane, and Undertaker who are big guys, but actually know what they are doing in the ring. Big Show especially gets a bad rap.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
I'm not mixing anyone up
I’m not saying big guys have no merit. Nowhere in my post could you honestly read that. I’m speaking more in terms of how the audience now thinks about big guys having some kind of automatic credibility or selling power. That if anything, guys that don’t fit into the classic bodybuilder type of ideal have more credibility now as top of the card guys, not just because of the success of guys like Shawn Michaels, BUT because the UFC’s legitimate fights, show that a little guy with skill can work a big guy over in the real world. That the popularity of MMA also change what the crossover audience (which is sizeable) expect in a pro wrestling product.
Well since you said how Show and Kane are harder to buy as a true threat to anybody half their size
it seems an awful lot like you are saying that they have little to no merit, or at least something in that sense.
And I don’t know about the UFC guys watching WWE, but I’m pretty sure that most of the big guys aren’t just looked at as guys that could get beaten by anybody who knows their stuff. For one, its insulting to guys like The Big Show, Undertaker, and Kane to assume in any way that they don’t know how to wrestle. You have some guys like Rey Mysterio who are always put in a David vs. Goliath situation, but you don’t often see small guys beat up on the big guys with any kind of regularity.
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
For a man his size
Big Show never gets the credit he deserves (or, more likely deserved, as he’s getting on in years now). He was super athletic for someone that big, and had actual skills. Khali, on the other hand, oh my god no.
by Kyle Rancourt on Oct 7, 2011 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions
That's why I'm loving this Show-Henry feud
The Big Show almost never gets a chance to be as brutal in the ring as he can be because of who he is usually matched up against. Its been a while since we’ve seen Big Show match up against anyone close to his size.
P.S.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=71QG0LbhOOQ
"In fact, most of these free-swinging Padres couldn’t hit Dock’s funky palm ball. I threw it often. But by then, also, the first acid distractions entered: the TV flickered; the cracks in the wall started to move; the hand soap started to breathe — those sorts of things. Plus I was drawn to the outdoor garden between innings. Rain was near, I sensed." - A.J. Daulerio
HHH switches arguments midway through the interview.
I mean, I agree that people like seeing larger-than-life characters, but since when does larger-than-life have to literally mean large? First he talks about Punk’s appearance, then launches into a discussion about actual character. One doesn’t necessarily have anything to do with the other. You can have all the appearance in the world and have zero character. See: Chris Masters.
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I think HHH makes all valid points, but his argument is too black and white. There are large contingents of people who want to see larger-than-life characters and great technical wrestlers, respectively. There’s room at the top for more than one type at the top of the roster. According to WWE’s own website, 85% of its viewers are over the age of 18, which explains why CM Punk outsold John Cena in merch sales. I’m perfectly willing to accept that kids love John Cena, and the kids should have to accept the fact that not everyone does.
I think the main weakness in WWE is being overlooked here...
These characters are very useless without a good director (or in this case, booker) to bring them alive and instill characters in them. Think of pro-wrestling a lot like animation: you need a good director with a team of animators to effectively bring these cartoon characters alive. And WWE’s currently lacking in that department, thus WWE have the same weakness as TNA at the moment: a lack of good direction in characters.
But the wrestlers in WWE needs to be capable enough to portray a story in the ring though talent and skill. And this is pretty rare. If I were recruiting for WWE, I would look at guys who have an extreme amount of athleticism and the capability to execute in the ring as well as looking like a character. Not only this but the wrestler needs to be able to tell a story outside of the ring. If they lack the ability in storytelling (which is the main point in pro-wrestling) either in the ring or out, then that’s what apprenticeship is for (or in this case, being a mid-card) to develop these guys.
So having a good wrestler to effectively portray a character from a director, whose job is to bring the vision wrestler’s character alive through effective storytelling is lacking in WWE and in a lot of other wrestling companies as well. Over the years, WWE (and a lot of other pro-wrestling companies) have forgotten the main ingredients to what makes them great.
booking
look, i think WWE’s booking lately has been as bad as anyone else does, but if the current work-shoot actually manages to run its course and be a satisfying storyline, it could actually open up a lot of interesting options. John Cena proves the limitations of traditional face/heel dynamics now anyway — what if WWE committed to “sports vs. entertainment” as the angle? It’d reflect the fan base more accurately than trying to put adequate-at-best faces over on internet fans who like “real” wrestlers, and still satisfy both camps. Could actually be pretty fun.
As with everything, it’s all in execution. So I’m not holding my breath.
I don’t think HHH is saying they are going with one body type over another. I think he’s saying they are gonna run with what connects with the fans regardless of ability in the ring. His point about great workers drawing money is largely true. By the time Austin was Stone Cold he lost a step in the ring. Look at HBK, the greatest ever, he really didn’t draw mega money. But at the same time without him wrestling itself would have less value. Without the workers that make you believe in the product and the action, you can’t suspend belief for the monster hero type like Hogan, Rock and Cena.
The argument against HHH here is to point out that in wrestling history there has been very few Hogans and Cenas and Rocks and Austins so here haven’t been rosters filled with large, green entertainers like WWE is currently comprised of. Under Hogan and under Rock and Austin, was a card filled to the brim with WORKERS! Without the contrast there is no balance and without balance you have a product that falters.
If TNA, a company filled with workers, was to find its Hogan right now, they would have a better product and a more balanced business model than WWE. In reality, WWE has cost itself a major boom period if in fact Cena is Hogan level popular! If WWE had surrounded Cena with talented workers instead of trying to recreate him, there would be less backlash against him. If Cena was on top of a deep roster filled with great workers like Hogan and Rock was, then perhaps WWE would be in a stronger position.
If Cena is what WWE says he is, then for the first time in WWE history, Vince McMahon has failed to take advantage of a mega star. If Cena had a greater roster underneath him and a wide variety of legit opponents to fight then Cena could draw more money. Clearly, either way you argue the point here, WWE has failed to produce the talent. If you believe the WWE argument that Cena is God in jorts, they completely bungled his career and earning power!
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WWE has lost out.
and they are to blame for it. With Hogan pro wrestling was in an era when the outlook towards it was completely different. Now the lines between kafaybe and shoot have been blurred as mentioned earlier. people look at it differently. If Cena had people like owen hart, steamboat, savage, and others whom Hogan had the advantage to work with then it would be a different ball game all together. Rock is a different case altogether because he got over almost completely through his work on the mic. he was a decent worker, but like Austin it was his promos that launched him as a charismatic superstar.
I believe Cena is not half as bad as we make him out to be. his promo work ‘used’ to be good, he could put on good matches with people like Edge and Taker, and he has pu on great matches with Punk as well. It is just that apart from that he has been pretty much squashing people and not putting on good matches. WWE has missed a trick on capitalising on what Cena could have been and what he could have made out of others
Jackie Chan looks like the chef at my local Chinese takeaway. He’s 5’ 8", and as far as acting goes, he won’t be polishing an Oscar. Yet people would rather see him in a movie than Triple H.
I worry for the future of WWE once Vince is gone.
Funny thing about Jackie Chan and Jet Li
They BOTH have had recent movies without martial arts content — Jackie Chan’s 1911 (as Huang Xing, the first army commander-in-chief of post-imperial China), and Jet Li’s Ocean Heaven (as Sam Wong, a terminally-ill and widowed aquarium worker with an autistic adult son).
Could it be that WWE Films is hampered by only having the WWE roster to work with for leads and thus only is able to write a script around “toughs,” while Jackie Chan and Jet Li can be cast and written as ahem PEOPLE?
The mind is boggled.
How is Cena a “larger than life person” ?? He’s barely 6’ tall. So he can lift a lot of weights… that’s not larger than life. In the 80’s the larger than life was in fact the personalities of the wrestlers. Hogan kicking everyone’s ass made sense.. he was 6’8.. he was larger than life in both ways. HHH’s got his logic twisted.
If you don't realize that John Cena is the face of the WWE, well...
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by Brooklyn Dodgers Mets Fan on Oct 7, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
HHH hates Punk. Let's just put the line there.
-HHH likes body builders. Laurinitis likes big slow guys. Vince has always had a hard-on for big guys. That is never going to change. Quick, name one of the gigantic guys Vince has brought in that he didn’t put a title on.
-HHH also forgot that Flair, one of the biggest draws ever, was not 6’6" and jacked to the gills. And he wasn’t a terrible wrestler. Piper was not a big guy either, but he drew big as well. Kevin Nash as WWF champion was also the worst drawing champion, whilst his clique partner was a foot shorter and 80 lbs lighter, and drew huge matches.
-It’s funny that he doesn’t mention his best friend, Shawn Michaels, or his rival, Bret Hart. Or Eddie Guererro. Or Edge. Or ADR, his current champion. This shows you where his mind is at, magazine, or no magazine.
-He couldn’t put over Punk at a PPV, on satellite radio, or at any point in their feud. Let’s stop getting outraged everytime he’s confirmed himself to be everything we thought he was.
HHH is so full of shit…i think his and vince’s “only jacked, steriod junkies are the only ones fans want to see” is such crap and so ignorant its not even funny….CM Punk doesn’t have the muscles of John Cena or the height and size of Undertaker or Kane, but he’s not a fucking midget and can’t do anything…he has the abilities and skill to take down guys like those, he’s fucking beaten Cena two PPV’s in a row in title matches for crying out loud in long, enduring matches…and HHH says “people don’t want to see people like punk”? does HHH go and take naps whenever Punk is out in the arena either fighting or talking? Punk has become one of the biggest guys in WWE over the past few months and just out ranked Cena in merchandise sales, and he gets loud “CM PUNK” chants every night…i’m pretty sure LOTS of people want to see him…he’s larger than life….but HHH seems to have such a problem with letting Punk get his spotlight, and he’s letting his massive ego and inherited power get in the way of everything!
by Anthony Jackson on Oct 7, 2011 10:01 PM EDT reply actions
anyone else feel like WWE
Is about to become the WCW of the 21st century.
Plenty of talented deserving guys who should be pushed and yet they are relegated to midcard status or jobbing to supposed “top draws”.
Sure you have Cena, but at what point do the 40-50-60% in the arenas that boo him, and are clearly ignored by the WWE, become the 70-80-90% that HATE Cena and eventually stop watching and wasting their time seeing the same crap over and over.
Maybe that’s going to be the final straw for the “WWE Universe” to become relevant. If they’re so concerned with ratings, than maybe that’s how a message gets sent.
Make Punk relevant. Champion. Not unstoppable, but not someone who just can’t win because he’s not a “monster” either.
Punk is the WWEs version of WCWs Chris Jericho.
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by marsexxxy23 on Oct 7, 2011 11:49 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
all over the map, message wise.
It’s a totally mixed message, and it comes from a lack of corporate and storyline focus both.
On the one hand, “don’t juice,” on the other “we like big guys, not little guys.” Employee wellness program on the one hand, welcome back Mason Ryan on the other (seriously, that guy is terrifyingly cut). Don’t bully, unless you’re Orton or Cena. Etc, etc.
Pick a line and stick with it. Commit.
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