UFC 118 Aftermath - Dana White Thinks Kenny Florian Chokes in the Big Fights
Mike Chiapetta transcribes some of the words of UFC head honcho Dana White, via Bloody Elbow, that Kenny Florian is not a fighter that rises to the occasion:
"I hate to say this because I don't want to take anything away from Gray Maynard, but I think Kenny is just one of those guys who chokes in big fights. I'm not bad-mouthing him or trying to disrespect him; I'm just being honest. Every time it's a big fight and there's a lot of things on the line, Kenny just ... Kenny's hands are unbelievable. Kenny's ground is unbelievable. Kenny usually kicks guys to the body and legs so hard that he busts guys up. You didn't see any of that tonight. He stood there and stared at Gray Maynard for three rounds."
It really pains me to hear him say such a thing. First of all it doesn't make any sense for him to outright give us a reason to ignore any future Kenny Florian fights. If he chokes in the big one, which means his career is not headed anywhere special, then why should we care about him anymore? What's the ultimate goal for his career now? Those aren't questions that really need to be asked though. They're hypothetical based on what White is saying. In some ways he is right but for the most part he's wrong.
Does Florian choke in the big fights? In some ways, yes, he does. The problem with saying that though, is that you discount all of his other victories as if they aren't worth anything. Are we forgetting that he soundly defeated Joe Stevenson at UFC 91 in what was a number one contender match? Or even the fight before it in which he had no trouble with Roger Huerta, a guy who hadn't lost in 17 consecutive fights before that night? The Gomi fight that he dominated from the outset before choking him out? Suddenly these fights mean nothing?
When White says that Florian chokes in the big fights he is specifically referring to 3 fights in particular. UFC 64 against Sean Sherk, UFC 101 against BJ Penn and now UFC 118 against Gray Maynard. As far as the Penn fight goes, he was beaten by a fighter that is better than him. Nothing more, nothing less. He came in with a gameplan similar to what GSP used to beat Penn but Florian doesn't have the size to properly execute it. That same problem, his size, is also the issue in the other two fights. He just couldn't stop Sean Sherk from picking him up and throwing him around and once Maynard got on top of him he couldn't get out from underneath him. By the time he threatened with submissions it was too late.
So we can surmise that Florian has a problem with strong wrestlers who can control him once they get on top of him. That has nothing to do with the fact that he was in a big fight. When Dana comes out and says that, he's really killing Florian's credibility with the fans. Whether people want to admit it or not, what White says helps shape what people actually believe. If he thinks Florian can't win a big fight then what reason does anyone have to disagree with him?
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It’s a pretty terrible thing for a company president to say publicly about an employee, let alone one of the best ambassadors for his company. Florian’s always been a company man, so I guess Dana can trash him if he feels like it?
Makes no sense.
I understand that one of the great things about a guy like Dana is the fact that he is so honest but this is going a bit too far. He shouldn’t be coming out and saying these things about one of the top Lightweights in his company that has been nothing but good for him.
Forget it Donny, you're out of your element.
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Ok, how many of us have participated in a high-level individual sport?
I’ve never been at high level, but I’ve been with guys who were, and I honestly think Dana is trying to give Kenny some incentive to take the next step in his prep.
Kenny is obviously a smart guy, and sometimes the smart guys get their heads all twisted around and can’t focus on what they need to focus on. Dana, to my mind, is just giving a slightly disrespectful kick in the ass since the loving, nurturing angle hasn’t helped him when he’s needed it most.
My high school wrestling coach was a psychologist and a really smart guy, and he knew exactly which buttons to press with everyone on his team. I’m not sure Dana’s as smart as my coach was, but I think he’s aiming for the same thing.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
The difference is,
Dana’s not a coach. He’s the president of the company. It’s one thing to have KenFlo’s trainer say this, or even another member of his camp. Dana making this comment is like Roger Goodell publicly saying Brett Farve looks old and injured and can’t play anymore and will hurt the Vikings by playing this year.
You just. Don’t. Do that. When you’re the commish.
I kind of agree that it's less-than-precedented
for a commish to call out talent. But the UFC is also kind of unique in its structure with Dana as the group owner, commish and a public talent evaluator.
If I was a hungry man with a gun in my hand and some promises to keep...
by misterjonez on Aug 30, 2010 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions

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