Vince McMahon seeking to get UFC banned in key European countries
Sometimes the most intriguing wrestling news stories are broken or teased on the Wrestling Observer / Figure Four Online message boards. This is one such case, as UFC.com writer/German UFC commentator (and former German WWE commentator/marketing staffer/keeper of savage secrets) Oliver Copp let the news leak that Vince McMahon is attempting to sabotage UFC's expansion into key European markets in a thread about Dana White's recent ambition to hold an event at the newly opened largest domed stadium in the world, Cowboy Stadium in Dallas.
Oliver thought this was a bad idea for the following reason:
Unless UFC manage to pack a stadium they go into, it'll be a negative for the brand's development. WWE, for instance, is only waiting for a high-profile failure like that to try and mock the UFC. They're already actively trying to get UFC banned in many European countries. Don't give them ammunition.
Dave Meltzer then corroborated the story:
Well, I guess that cat is out of the bag.
Yeah, very scared of what happened in the U.S., and more particularly Canada, would happen in Europe.
But Oliver would know better, my impression is it's whispering behind the scenes about violence and brutality not being suitable for television, not inability to draw.
And, of course, he couldn't leave without taking a potshot at WWE's official line that UFC is not their competition:
But none of that could be true, since Donna Goldsmith continually says that they are not competition because one is scripted entertainment and the other is not, plus UFC doesn't know how to make stars, has no stars, or something like that.
Finally, Oliver Copp expanded on his vague original post:
Yeah, WWE's that shady. Of course UFC isn't competition, and that's why they really don't care how UFC does. Just like TNA which also isn't considered competition but who they constantly try to screw with.
The bottom line is WWE don't like it too much when UFC's bottom-of-the-barrel shows still outdraw 90 percent of the WWE PPVs in North America.
And suggests how UFC failing to draw well at Cowboy Stadium would be twisted to fit WWE's agenda:
"UFC only appeals to a small, socially disturbed percentage of the viewing audience. Due to the violence it portrays, it shouldn't be considered acceptable in any civilized community. When they went to Cowboy Stadium, they only drew 20,000 people. We have had four years of 60,000+ fans at WrestleMania. Our appeal is much broader and we present a safer product."
If you were a television executive, could you see through the BS? They're really good at twisting the facts.
Personally I could do without Oliver's "holier than thou" pro UFC tone. Sure it's shady. Part and parcel of the job of being a great promoter, unfortunately yes. It's not like Dana White is above doing a whispering campaign against his enemies, whether it be Pride, Elite XC, M-1 Global, Fedor Emelienenko or Strikeforce. Dave and Oliver should just be thankful that Vince McMahon wasn't ahead of the curve and didn't nix the first series of The Ultimate Fighter from following Raw on Spike TV in January 2005.
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UFC only appeals to a small, socially disturbed percentage of the viewing audience. Due to the violence it portrays, it shouldn’t be considered acceptable in any civilized community. When they went to Cowboy Stadium, they only drew 20,000 people. We have had four years of 60,000+ fans at WrestleMania. Our appeal is much broader and we present a safer product.
Owen Hart says hi.
Well, he WOULD if he could.
Thats some
Sucker shit… I dont know what mentioning Owen Harts name meant… MMA has had one death also. Fucking internet gay bloggers.. Have some respect
Wayne Gretsky, Michael Jordan, Joe Montana, Muhammed Ali, FEDOR EMELIANKO
by The real ZACK on Apr 7, 2010 9:07 AM EDT up reply actions
gay bloggers?
ya thats mature, civilized and respectful. tell me, kind sir, what exactly is gay about that comment?
by Opposites Attack on Apr 7, 2010 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Get your facts straight
Not in the cage. How many deaths has Professional Wrestling had inside of the ring or due to their participation? Check this link: http://prowrestling.about.com/od/whatsrealwhatsfake/a/wrestlersdeaths.htm
The SACs that regulate MMA and their tough line on PEDs alone make MMA more safe than Pro Wrestling from a long term perspective. You said it yourself, you don’t know what mentioning Owen Hart’s name meant… kind of disqualifies your entire position, don’t you think?
Your decision to revert to insults and profanity further shows that you don’t know what you’re talking about… IE – troll.
And for the record...
I’ve only been able to turn up unofficial reports of three deaths related to MMA, all of which involved some bad decision making when it came to actually taking the fight. If you want a rather concise answer about how MMA is a lot safer than most other mainstream sports – including pro wrestling, also check out
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20080818214331AAiaqlm
’Nuff said.
This
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
by Andrew Tolliver on Apr 7, 2010 8:48 AM EDT up reply actions
true.
maybe if you are mindless enough to be entertained by fake fighting then WWE>UFC. otherwise, thats the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
by Opposites Attack on Apr 7, 2010 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
He's a pathetic old bitter druggie
His “safer” product has seen numerous wrestlers suffer serious, dehabilitating injuries and die at a young age, some of whom while employed by him. The high mortality and injury rate in pro wrestling, specifically in WWE, is disgraceful so he has no right to criticise any other product for being too violent. He’s a scumbag promoter, always was and always will be. McMahon actually makes Dana look ethical in comparison.
Fitch: (On a potential fight with Kos) "That will only happen in our gym with the doors locked"
Dana: "That's going to sell a lot of tickets"
You sign up to Dave, lets see how long we last without being banned...lol
Is this site new?
All the world's a stage and most of us are desperately unrehearsed.
Its always been incredible to me
How even though the fights are choreographed these people still get themselves hurt that badly.
(one more for the road)
This.
Columbus til I die, Columbus til I die. I know I am, I swear I am, Columbus til I die!
"Turner, at midcourt...inside it, at the buzzer, GOT IT!!!!"
by Andrew Tolliver on Apr 7, 2010 8:49 AM EDT up reply actions

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